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[Poil]

Marksdwarves practicing with wood and bone bolts at unicorns locked up behind fortifications. With plenty of windows towards the main corridor so all dwarves who walk by can enjoy it.

Anyway, being able to order all civilian dwarves to wear armor and carry light weapons as well as optionaly not flee from enemies might be enough.

[ June 14, 2007: Message edited by: Poil ]

[slMagnvox]

quote:Originally posted by Retro42:
<STRONG>Honestly though, an AI option for military dwarves to upgrade equipment and post-economy civvies to buy weapons would be nice.</STRONG>

What've we got 2nd Amendment protections in the Mountainhomes bill of rights?

I don't know why civilians would want weaponry ... unless they were planning some kind of revolution ... or didn't trust my compentent fort guards to keep them safe.  We've only got one guard who is completely blind ..  The other still has his left eye.

[RP]

quote:Originally posted by slMagnvox:
<STRONG>
The other still has his left eye.</STRONG>

Why, won't he give it back?

[Dreamer]

It's been common, throughout history, for average (Or below-average) Joes to carry around daggers (Not sure about knives, though, I've only read about daggers).  They were mostly used for eating, and that was usually the only utensil for most people (Besides their fingers).  They could be used as a weapon in a pinch, and since guards weren't entirely common in most hamlets and roads, the only people that I can think of that wouldn't carry weapons, even a simple dagger, are those rich folk with armed escorts.  Daggers were mostly used for eating, though.

Swords were less common, and usually held by nobles and soldiers.  This was because they were expensive - You could make enough swords for their price to go down enough for most people to own one.

I think civilian weaponry is an excellent idea, by the way.  They wouldn't really train with them, unless they were drafted into the militia, but I suppose you could make a mandate or something where people who have no jobs at least familiarize themselves with their side arms.

[AMRIV]

Quoting from http://www.middle-ages.org.uk/bows.htm:

"  In 1252 the 'Assize of Arms' was passed which decreed that every man between the age of 15 to 60 years old were ordered to equip themselves with a bow and arrows. The Plantagenet King Edward III took this further and decreed the Archery Law in 1363 which commanded the obligatory practice of archery on Sundays and holidays! The Archery Law "forbade, on pain of death, all sport that took up time better spent on war training especially archery practise".  "

I think this shows good precedence for having non military dwarves train.

[Osmosis Jones]

Arise from the depths, oh thread of antiquity!

Osmosis Jones cancels study, interrupted by thread necromancy!  :p

[AMRIV]

Sorry if you didn't like the necro. I was searching for something else, came across this and didn't think to check the date.

[Moron]

Well, now this thread is back, I do think it would be nice if sparring was a bit less lethal for new recruits.

An experienced fighter ought to be able to handle his weapon in such a way that they hold back their blows and don't use all their strength when sparring against a rookie, though maybe in this type of sparring, the skilled warrior should not gain much experience as they aren't being challenged.

After all, if you go to a martial arts dojo and see a black belt sparring with a beginner, the black belt is generally smart not to use his best strikes at full power etc..

And yes, people do get injured training in martial arts, but deaths, mangled limbs and permanent brain damage are relatively uncommon.

[Normandy]

Or perhaps training dummies. That aren't alive. And don't the word 'goblin' in their name. They'd give relatively very little expierience, but are completely risk-free.

Then, once you think your recruits have progressed enough, set them to sparring. The higher their weapons skill, the lower chance they should have to hurt eachother (a sword master would never allow his sword to touch a fellow soldier, but a dabbling sword user might not have that sort of ability to... stop his sword short of their partner's head.)

[Jamuk]

The real problem here is not having training weapons... Do you really think people who have never handled a weapon before would be told to have a sword fight with soldier?  I mean really, it's silly.  They'd just use sticks or something not actual weapons.  Plus, why put wear and tear on their equipment before ever going into battle?

[Techhead]

Of course, wooden sparring weapons would thus mean less clear glass...