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Re: Processor Grind
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2009, 06:36:37 am »

Last time I checked this on my own computer, which was for 40d, I was at 0% in the title screen, for example, so it's not a keyboard polling problem (that situation is handled in the main loop), but something more specific to the computer in question.  It is a common problem though, and people that have had this problem have had a lot of progress with the 40d# versions if I remember.  For problems in menus, it pretty much comes down to how the OpenGL code is implemented and that some newer cards no longer support how 40d does things (again, if I remember).

Well, polling was my best guess. My best just wasn't good enough. :)

But either way it sounds like 40d16 should help.
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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2009, 08:56:00 am »

Interestingly, my current fortress (40d16 with a quad core intel) ran slower when I had less dorfs than it does now. (Hovering at 230, atm. They breed like bloody rabbits.)

This even after I completed my current megaproject that will cause the fortress to seal up and completely flood should it fall to invasion, killing the invaders and locking away its riches.

Bottom line, 40d16 does seem faster than 40d, but it has some odd quirks to it. Definitely give it a shot. And for the sake of the game's development, please let us all know how it turned out.
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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2009, 09:57:13 pm »

You do realize that when you say "quad core" you are only bragging, since DF can only use one core, right?
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2009, 10:00:32 pm »

You do realize that when you say "quad core" you are only bragging, since DF can only use one core, right?

Shh your opening up Pandora's box!
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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2009, 10:30:11 pm »

You do realize that when you say "quad core" you are only bragging, since DF can only use one core, right?

Although the system can swap DF from core to core, allowing the unused cores to cool down and allowing DF to run the cores harder without them overheating, which can be handy if you're being stupid and have a max framerate of 10,000.

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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2009, 11:22:19 pm »

You do realize that when you say "quad core" you are only bragging, since DF can only use one core, right?

That makes me sad.
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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2009, 12:55:07 am »

Although the system can swap DF from core to core, allowing the unused cores to cool down and allowing DF to run the cores harder without them overheating, which can be handy if you're being stupid and have a max framerate of 10,000.
I thought overheating problem died away with prescott cores.  ;D

As to me, i can't heat my E8400 (and even Q9650 on the work) over 60°C with any tests. Without throttling. With the standard air cooler.
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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2009, 01:27:55 am »

Although the system can swap DF from core to core, allowing the unused cores to cool down and allowing DF to run the cores harder without them overheating, which can be handy if you're being stupid and have a max framerate of 10,000.
I thought overheating problem died away with prescott cores.  ;D

As to me, i can't heat my E8400 (and even Q9650 on the work) over 60°C with any tests. Without throttling. With the standard air cooler.

Depends on how well your system is designed. Alot of pre-made systems aren't built properly and end up overheating if they're run at 100% capacity for more than fifteen minutes or so.

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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2009, 03:24:17 am »

As to me, i can't heat my E8400 (and even Q9650 on the work) over 60°C with any tests. Without throttling. With the standard air cooler.
Depends on how well your system is designed. Alot of pre-made systems aren't built properly and end up overheating if they're run at 100% capacity for more than fifteen minutes or so.
*uck, those made in China? ;-)
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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2009, 03:35:18 am »

Nah; any pre-made gaming rig that isn't built intelligently. Most of the people who design boxes and how stuff fits into the boxes don't understand computers very well or waste all their time making things look pretty and end up with something that isn't usable. Case in point; my current box has 3 fan holes, however it's physically impossible to get a fan into the 2nd hole, as the 3D card is there and it's heat sink blocks the hole. Whoever designed the box thought the third fan hole would look good, but failed to take into account the actual dimensions of the parts involved.

The solution? Remove the heat sink from the card and replace it with a fan. Cause fans cool stuff right?


Fortunately i just bought the box and stuck my own computer in it, but i feel for any poor bastards that bought the entire system. It'd probably run fine until you did anything that pushed the graphics card for more than 10 consecutive minutes.

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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2009, 08:04:04 am »

I usually end up buying cheap cases with a lot of room and cut holes in them for extra fans. I grew up doing PC gaming in the era of overclocking. It just doesn't feel right to me if a case doesn't sound like a jet turbine or suck up any nearby loose paper and shower the room with confetti.
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« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2009, 08:11:27 am »

There is so no point whatsoever in overclocking your system these days. Seriously.

I know three people, all of whom adept hardware peoples, all of whom routinely overclock their machines, and all of whom have blown their shit up at least twice (one of them's done it five times.)

Mind you, credit where credit is due, they seem to enjoy buying 6 - 8 year old systems, overclocking them to hit current gen levels of power for three months and then going up in a ball of fire.

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« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2009, 08:19:32 am »

I agree, I haven't overclocked a system in years. Moore's law having been proven more or less true, it just doesn't seem necessary.
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« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2009, 10:47:29 am »

I find it hard to sleep with the vacuum-like hum of my box running, but I build my system to handle maxed out Oblivion.

I've never noticed DF go over 50% on my system, but I don't look at that much.  I can say that, in my case at least, pathing is the big FPS killer.  D# has helped, some, but my fort is a testament to poor design (I had good plans but only did them half-way), so that's not a huge surprise.

And I always overclock, and have never had trouble myself, but I don't push as hard as I could go.  I honestly need more memory than CPU right now anyway.
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« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2009, 11:18:45 am »

There is so no point whatsoever in overclocking your system these days. Seriously.
Why not?
For example mine E8400 running at 3Ghz, making 300fps in DF.
And successfully overclocks to ~4.4Ghz, making 480-500fps, don't know why it multiplies more than frequency.

In my point of view this is great advantage with minimal efforts (just setting different frequenceis, voltages and quefficients in bios) - with no excessive heat, no bugs at all.

*In other case the result could be less prosperous though.  ;D

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Mind you, credit where credit is due, they seem to enjoy buying 6 - 8 year old systems, overclocking them to hit current gen levels of power for three months and then going up in a ball of fire.
There must be some deeper point then we can see. ;-)
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