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[mission0]

Currently found a fairly decent site.

It has magma, chasm, ug river, river. It's also a cold environment with limited iron.

Currently I'm building an obsidian tower, using a caste, into the mountain and was wondering how I should transport magma to the top. I was thinking of doing an alternating pump up to the planned top level. Also would like to carve a dragon's face into the tower. Will post progress here, any tips are appreciated?

http://mkv25.net/dfma/map-6961-ancient

[XSI]

As a tip, I suggest you do one z level of your tower at a time, otherwise there is a much bigger chance of something going horribly wrong.(Provided you're using magma and water for the obsidian, not just mining it.)

As for magma to the top, just screwpumps(Magma safe materials, just iron works, goblins will supply you with that.)

Tip: Make a simple but efficient trap to claim goblinite, the most plentiful iron ore, you will probably need some of it, and even if not, it will be great to have a bit of extra laying around for later.

[mission0]

As a tip, I suggest you do one z level of your tower at a time, otherwise there is a much bigger chance of something going horribly wrong.(Provided you're using magma and water for the obsidian, not just mining it.)

As for magma to the top, just screwpumps(Magma safe materials, just iron works, goblins will supply you with that.)

Tip: Make a simple but efficient trap to claim goblinite, the most plentiful iron ore, you will probably need some of it, and even if not, it will be great to have a bit of extra laying around for later.

Magma was my plan.

Also from running magma along long tunnels before will the pumps speed up the flow of magma or will it still be torturously slow?

P.S. heheh Goblinite.

[NFossil]

Build a floodgate hooked to a lever on the top level of the mold, in order to drain the remaining water or magma after the last level has been cast. You could also use a screw pump (I used a pump on mine so I want to see other people doing something else XD)
Magma get pumped pretty quickly.

[Albedo]

Pumped magma is MUCH faster than naturally flowing magma.  Much.  Do it if at all feasible.

Magma pumps don't seem to need to be "magma safe", just fire-safe - no need for bauxite blocks, and glass or copper screws seem to work fine. (Even wood works, but only long enough for, say, one use of a trap.)

If you haven't already, read this:http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=26805.0
for some traditional ploys and blunders, and plan ahead.

(edit - active hyperlink)

[mission0]

Interesting guide, I will have to keep in mind to put the bottom of my pump tower about 3 z levels or so under so that it can keep going.

[Wraithsight]

Cool sounding site, any chance of a seed?

Also if memory serves (and take that with a grain of salt, because it usually doesn't) you can make pumps of out of basically any material, provided the pump itself wont be submerged in magma. Except for wooden parts, again from memory they take damage and break eventually just from just being located on "warm stone".

[The Grackle]

Build a pumpstack that goes up from the lowest z level of your magma pipe all the way up to the top z-level of your tower-to-be +1 extra z level.  If you drain from a midpoint in your pipe, you might run out of magma, and it takes a LONG time to refill; so add some extra pumps and drain from the lowest z level. 

Then, once you've built your stack, construct a 1-tile-wide floor path with walls on both sides, leading to your mold.  Basically a long tube.  At the end of your tube, don't put a floodgate, but seal it up with a wall.  Then one z level up, build a little platform at the end of this magma tube,and a build terminal-pump.  Having a pump at the end (I call them faucets) will significantly speed up your magma-pouring compared to letting it spill out the end under its own power. 

Water flows faster, so it's easier to deal with, but I'd build a similar stack-tube-faucet for water too. 

Example:

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[Albedo]

One key to avoiding draining your magma pipe too fast is to only use what you need, no more.

If magma only needs to be 2/7 deep to avoid evaporation (you could get away with slightly less and live dangerously, it evap's slow and so long as you're quick, it's all good), then figure out how much you need, and have a pre-measuring reservoir that feeds your drop-bridge(s).  That reservoir fills 100%, then gets pumped/dropped onto your retracting bridges for spreading.  Perfect amount each time.

[mission0]

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Not sure if this will do much good for you since I'm using the mod in my sig there. Top left corner there is a mountain range. Should be right next to one of the rivers.

Currently building a pumpstack now. Problem is the only materials I have available at the moment are wood and rocks... waiting for the caravan to come so I can get some steel I requested to mold into other things.

Edit: Well this puts a hitch on things. I had channeled into the very bottom level of the pipe. Now if anyone knows how magma works it can only flow up while in a pipe... of course I chose the one spot where this is possible and now every once in a while I get a 7 stack of magma being pushed up into the channeled area. Learning is fun!

[mission0]

The tower is being filled currently. I uploaded the map as well. While looking around I realized I should have built stairs for the scaffolding but the floors can be taken apart just as easily without injuring anyone.

http://mkv25.net/dfma/map-6961-ancient