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Author Topic: That damn rock-counting thing.  (Read 1535 times)

Skorpion

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That damn rock-counting thing.
« on: September 09, 2009, 04:47:35 pm »

The 'stones' part of the stocks menu ALWAYS jams up DF for a few minutes while it calculates just where every single rock is.
Any way to avoid?
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CobaltKobold

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Re: That damn rock-counting thing.
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2009, 04:59:32 pm »

Destroy excess rocks.

Or avoid passing the stone item directly. Page down from fourth item, for instance.
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Re: That damn rock-counting thing.
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2009, 06:52:34 pm »

I already avoid it, but every so often I forget to.

And rock-dumping takes ages for such little result, as well. Especially when you forget where you leave floors and have to have someone deconstruct it while rocks rain down on their heads.
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A tendon in the skull has been torn!
The Raven has been knocked unconcious!

Elves do it in trees. Humans do it in wooden structures. Dwarves? Dwarves do it underground. With magma.

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Re: That damn rock-counting thing.
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2009, 08:21:12 pm »

I have the "go down four times before paging to bars" drilled into my head so far I can't remember the last time I accidentally hit the stones.

It's a good thing, too; by now, doing so would probably set my laptop on fire.
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Re: That damn rock-counting thing.
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2009, 12:33:31 am »

The page-up/page-down keys are definitely your friends here. They'll let you skip the stones category entirely, unless you goof up.

And I feel your pain. It takes about 2 minutes for my stones menu to load right now.
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Re: That damn rock-counting thing.
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2009, 12:57:57 am »

for destroying, there's exporting, melting, and atom-smashing (you're unlikely to want to get rid of raw adamantine or bauxite, which are all that won't melt of stones)
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Re: That damn rock-counting thing.
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2009, 03:19:59 am »

Garbage Disposal; repeating atom smasher in a small hole that you dump all your rocks down. Put those legions of peasants to work hauling stones in between major crafting operations.

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Re: That damn rock-counting thing.
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2009, 03:37:20 am »

I have the "go down four times before paging to bars" drilled into my head so far I can't remember the last time I accidentally hit the stones.

exactly. down, down, down, down, pgdn, pgdn = bars! wee!
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Re: That damn rock-counting thing.
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2009, 07:15:23 am »

Set up some catapults and start training your hauler brigade in siege operating. Uses up stone and makes them stronger/faster without the exhausted spam.
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Re: That damn rock-counting thing.
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2009, 07:28:39 am »

Atom smashers can be more carefully triggerred, too, by lever rather than plate. This lets you do a mass-dump, then re-dump elsewhere the specific materials you want to keep. Once that re-dump is done, smash the rest and fiddle with your dump zones.

Alternately, if stones are the only thing in your fortress that gets to five or more digits(and I find that stones are several orders of magnitude higher than anything else), don't let your bookkeeper go any higher than High Precision; if it's already at highest, let it decay. It's not an ideal option, since it doesn't let you view your ore stocks, but until there's an option to pulverize rock rather than cutting it neatly, there's only so many things we can do. And not viewing your ore stocks is no loss if you skip over that section anyway.
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Re: That damn rock-counting thing.
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2009, 09:47:19 am »

I have the "go down four times before paging to bars" drilled into my head so far I can't remember the last time I accidentally hit the stones.

It's a good thing, too; by now, doing so would probably set my laptop on fire.

So do I, but I was looking through the lists for useless worthless junk to order tossed into magma or recycled. Solo bone bolts, wooden armour, no-quality shields, and so forth.
Although I'm making a suspended archery platform for a megaproject.
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A tendon in the skull has been torn!
The Raven has been knocked unconcious!

Elves do it in trees. Humans do it in wooden structures. Dwarves? Dwarves do it underground. With magma.

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Re: That damn rock-counting thing.
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2009, 03:33:41 pm »

You might just want to build a couple masons shops and have them constantly crank out stone crafts. Gets rid of Excess stone, trains up you stonecrafters, and can all be traded away.
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Re: That damn rock-counting thing.
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2009, 05:02:17 pm »

I've found that a combination of masons making blocks(All constructions must be made with blocks for me, no idea why), and stonecrafters making mass crafts will still not get rid of all the rock.

My solution, once you're done with a mining shaft full of rock, lock it with a door and apply magma, the magma will melt all* the rocks away, and you can drain it later.

This is the only solution I've found that doesn't have almost all dwarves working on rock hauling.

*Provided you were not mining bauxite
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Re: That damn rock-counting thing.
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2009, 07:10:04 pm »

I've found that a combination of masons making blocks(All constructions must be made with blocks for me, no idea why), and stonecrafters making mass crafts will still not get rid of all the rock.

My solution, once you're done with a mining shaft full of rock, lock it with a door and apply magma, the magma will melt all* the rocks away, and you can drain it later.

This is the only solution I've found that doesn't have almost all dwarves working on rock hauling.

*Provided you were not mining bauxite

I completely agree with you XSI - I have to make my constructions out of blocks too. I think its cause when I see "rough [rock] wall", it makes me want to smooth it... like my dwarves are being lazy or something.

Er, anyways, I've found that for large constructions such as large towers with accompanying sky-bridges (you know, goes from the edge of the nearby mountain to the tower) use up ridiculous amounts of stone.

... of course, then you need to learn to avoid the "blocks" menu option too.
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Re: That damn rock-counting thing.
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2009, 07:42:53 pm »

Plus, blocks're 5 mod instead of 3, though no quality mod.
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