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Author Topic: The balance of "Can I?" and "Should I?" in DF  (Read 3572 times)

Timst

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Re: The balance of "Can I?" and "Should I?" in DF
« Reply #45 on: September 13, 2009, 11:33:30 am »

Also, Losing is Fun. It's true that losing your fortress is always a great moment, and surviving deadly food crisis and heartache inducing ambushes is what make the game more than a city builder.

Draco18s

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Re: The balance of "Can I?" and "Should I?" in DF
« Reply #46 on: September 13, 2009, 12:29:18 pm »

The more mature/wealthy your fort, the more likely it is you know DF's ropes pretty well, and thus the more likely you are ready for some extra challenge.

Not necessarily.  A new player could easily run into a pocket of platinum and have a high-level stonecrafter who turns the nuggets into =platinum ore statues= and inflate the fort's wealth higher than the player's actual "progress."
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Re: The balance of "Can I?" and "Should I?" in DF
« Reply #47 on: September 13, 2009, 02:03:52 pm »

The more mature/wealthy your fort, the more likely it is you know DF's ropes pretty well, and thus the more likely you are ready for some extra challenge.

Not necessarily.  A new player could easily run into a pocket of platinum and have a high-level stonecrafter who turns the nuggets into =platinum ore statues= and inflate the fort's wealth higher than the player's actual "progress."

Pure wealth measures could easily be balanced by population to avoid that problem.  But I'm skeptical that even a ludicrously wealth-producing new player's fort of 7-20 dwarves could really rival the average new player's 80-dwarf fort for wealth.  Rather than seeing it as an abstract "progress" meter, any measure of "progress" should be realistic--attracting antagonists only because features present in the fort are actually things the antagonist wants or otherwise seeks out.
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Re: The balance of "Can I?" and "Should I?" in DF
« Reply #48 on: September 13, 2009, 09:20:36 pm »

And if there's no wizard available, you'd get an attacking demigod with an army of giant eagles, or an antman breeding season, or a demon king causing an earthquake, or an ohmu stampede. Maybe the wizard will help you against the ohmus, if you've played your cards right.

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Granite26

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Re: The balance of "Can I?" and "Should I?" in DF
« Reply #49 on: September 14, 2009, 10:07:24 am »

The more mature/wealthy your fort, the more likely it is you know DF's ropes pretty well, and thus the more likely you are ready for some extra challenge.

Not necessarily.  A new player could easily run into a pocket of platinum and have a high-level stonecrafter who turns the nuggets into =platinum ore statues= and inflate the fort's wealth higher than the player's actual "progress."

That almost seems fair though... Discover valuable underground resource you can't defend => Get taken over by world power.
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