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Think0028

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Re: Political violence is busted?
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2009, 03:59:44 pm »

Right off the bat:

Love: Boosted by sleepers, Liberal Guardian, some site actions (saving fuzzy bunnies!).
Fear: Violence, other site actions (pressing the big red button).

They probably shouldn't affect each other much if we want the Machiavellian love/hate thing going on. That said, both should affect the country's overall liberalness. The success of the Conservative Crime Squad should also be based on these, with either high love or fear weakening their effects like low political violence tolerance does now. (That's another problem with the system: the best way to fight the Conservative Crime squad currently is to keep an issue arch-conservative?! That's just wrong). They most definitely should stack, because Machiavelli.
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Re: Political violence is busted?
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2009, 04:20:57 pm »

Well, if people are scared of you, it would be easier to brainwash someone, since everyone has heard terrifying stories about the LCS and what people can do to them, and also it will make it more likely for people to flee when they see your group (CCS and other important groups could be immune to this).  If society loves you, it would be easier to preach the issues and seduce people.

Also, if people are really, really terrified of the LCS, then other things might happen, such as conservative politicians stepping down (requires more general political update, thought) and perhaps even members of the supreme court being cowed into surender.  Also, people could be less likely to rat on you due to fears of retribution from the LCS, and the jury could also have this fear.  So, maybe in a society where the LCS is hated but feared, the jury description may, at some points, read something like this:

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The jury is staunchly conservative, but is terrified of possible LCS retribution.

Anyway, there are a lot of options, and I think this idea could be expanded upon.
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Re: Political violence is busted?
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2009, 04:24:49 pm »

teh feared thing will have to have some backfire.
For example, raids from the cops and such will be stronger because they fear your power and belive they'll need more power to take you down.
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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2009, 04:35:50 pm »

teh feared thing will have to have some backfire.
For example, raids from the cops and such will be stronger because they fear your power and belive they'll need more power to take you down.

Any kind of raid on the LCS would be stronger.

Also, if people are going to run away from the mere sight of LCS members, how would that work?
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Re: Political violence is busted?
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2009, 04:47:02 pm »

Sorry, I left in an ambiguity.  I meant if you had already alarmed conservatives (you know how civilians sometimes run away from you after you've set off alarms?) it would be more likely for people to take one look at your squad and flee.
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Re: Political violence is busted?
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2009, 04:51:00 pm »

hmm, and maybe make moderates sometimes call the cops in fear?
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Re: Political violence is busted?
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2009, 04:55:06 pm »

hmm, and maybe make moderates sometimes call the cops in fear?
Well, I was thinking that the fear might also mean that where conservatives stand and fight at the moment, some of them would flee in fear (civilians, mainly - we don't want cowardly police or mercs).  Also, some people would actually be terrified into becoming liberal, and would thus do nothing to obstruct the LCS when it's doing violent acts.
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« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2009, 04:56:50 pm »

Also fear and respect for the LCS might cause the paper to hover over you likea  hawk, no?
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« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2009, 05:05:20 pm »

Also fear and respect for the LCS might cause the paper to hover over you likea  hawk, no?

10-20% chance some sort of public news outlet gets a backbone and decides to speak em fighting words about LCS?
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« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2009, 05:07:06 pm »

no, they spy on you and release some information decreasing the secrecy of one safehouse. Instant CCS bait.
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« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2009, 05:09:44 pm »

Oh... you mean like a paparazi or some such?

The glamorous criminal life of Urist the LCS founder?  Except they hate the LCS. 

Actually, them paparazi probably do hate the celebrity they are following...
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« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2009, 05:11:18 pm »

That would probably from hatred rather than fear.

If you feared them, you'd probably stay well clear of their safehouse and just call in the CCS.
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« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2009, 05:13:28 pm »

Well, if people are scared of you, it would be easier to brainwash someone, since everyone has heard terrifying stories about the LCS and what people can do to them, and also it will make it more likely for people to flee when they see your group (CCS and other important groups could be immune to this).  If society loves you, it would be easier to preach the issues and seduce people.

To expand upon these ideas, albeit perhaps impractically, a high amount of fear might make traditional "easily recruited" people (e.g., Hippies and such... or maybe just just high Heart folk?) harder to recruit. A high amount of love could make non-conservative torture victims that much more dis-Heartened (crushing their fuzzy-bunny-saving idealization of the LCS; conservatives already believe the worst of them).
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« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2009, 05:18:24 pm »

If you feared them, you'd probably stay well clear of their safehouse and just call in the CCS.
the news follows drug cartels and the like. Also, they know if you kill anyone then the cops will get EXTREMELY pissed.
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« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2009, 05:35:48 pm »

If you feared them, you'd probably stay well clear of their safehouse and just call in the CCS.
the news follows drug cartels and the like. Also, they know if you kill anyone then the cops will get EXTREMELY pissed.

So...
1. Follow LCS into safe house.
2. Get killed.
3. You are dead.
4. Cops get pissed.
5. You are still dead.
6. ????
7. Yet, you are still dead.
8. Profit!?
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