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[Jackrabbit]

I've always kind of wondered just what the Imperium considers a person.  They use people, or parts of them anyway, for computers and guard stations and radios and typewriters and suitcases and everything.  At what point does a human corpus go from being a citizen to an appliance?

The moment they are born into an Imperium controlled world.

[Neruz]

The Imperium doesn't bother itself with such rediculous ideas like 'human rights' anyway. You're either with them, or against them, and unless you're an ageless undead mind shackled inside an undying metal shell, a mindless eating machine and but a single componant of a nigh-infinite swarm or a green god of war leading the greatest WAAAAGGH! the galaxy has ever seen, you don't want to be against them.

[Servant Corps]

The Imperium however is also highly decentralized. I view them as a protection racket, as long as you pay lip service to the Emperor, pay your taxes, and follow all orders, the Empire let the planet do as they want.

So you can have a couple planets that embrace democracy and human rights, they are just very far and few.

[Aqizzar]

I was more wondering how the Imperium decides what constitutes a person, at least for head counting purposes.  Certainly it would be difficult for the Guard to draft one of those guys whose spinal cord has become a phone line.

[Cthulhu]

Combat servitors, man.

[Neruz]

I was more wondering how the Imperium decides what constitutes a person, at least for head counting purposes.  Certainly it would be difficult for the Guard to draft one of those guys whose spinal cord has become a phone line.

The Imperium can't even work out how many planets it has, what on earth makes you think it even cares how many 'people' it has?

[Servant Corps]

As for what consitutes a person, I think you lose your rights when you become a Heretic who worships Chaos or a unapproved Emperor cult, or you become a Xenos Lover (like a lover of the Tau).

If you are just a common Criminal, you still have some rights and are still considered a human. After all, you are committing crimes against your fellow man, but you're doing it for yourself, you aren't selling mankind out.

[Jackrabbit]

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You're aware of the horrific things the Imperium does to criminals, right?

[Cthulhu]

Penal legions, servitors, I'd rather be executed.

[Neruz]

Yeaah, the Imperium doesn't do 'human rights'.

[Servant Corps]

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You're aware of the horrific things the Imperium does to criminals, right?

Oh...er...whoops.

Still, Neruz, don't forget varations on Imperium worlds. The Imperium is a big place. There can be deviant locations that support human rights.

[Jackrabbit]

Oh sure. But the Imperium can still screw them over royally should they so choose.

Human Rights can only exist for a short space of time, because the Imperium has the better weapons.

[Neruz]

I don't think i've ever seen a canonical excample of an Imperium world with human rights.

[Jackrabbit]

What was that world that was like a paradise, and then people turned to Chaos and one in three people were executed by the Grey Knights?

That may have had human rights beforehand. Also, possibly the Ultramar.

[Aqizzar]

What was that world that was like a paradise, and then people turned to Chaos and one in three people were executed by the Grey Knights?

Every planet in the Imperium.

Every.  Single.  Last.  One.