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[Heron TSG]

Ahhhh the mongols. Asskickers of the plains.

EDIT: Or was that the huns?

Both. They must fight!

[chaoticag]

Ahhhh the mongols. Asskickers of the plains.

EDIT: Or was that the huns?

Same people really, Chinese called them huns but they called themselves mongols (I think).

[Rashilul]

I could see it being a draw in samurai versus knight. Knights had a shitload of heavy armor, that would make the katana virtually worthless. But it's heavy, meaning the knight would inch around the battlefield while the samurai in his lighter armor could dance around him. It would probably turn into a test of endurance. If the knight gets too exhausted he might trip, and the samurai could take his time to hit the weakspots on the armor. If the samurai gets too exhausted, he might not dodge all the way out of a cut, and the wound would slow him up.

That's why they fight on horseback. If he isn't on horseback, he would wear lighter armor. A knight fighting on horseback using a lance could impale a samurai easily.

[Neonivek]

Guys don't forget that they stack battles and alter statistics.

Ninja Vs. Spartan was stacked IN THE NINJAs FAVOR! but he still lost.
-No seriously, it was stacked WAY beyond historical inaccuracy for the Ninja.

With Pirate Vs. Knight they used different statistics then what they came up with in the show (For example the Flintlock Pistols were much more powerful in simulation then in testing)

So don't take it too seriously.

[Maric]

Did anyone not notice that the Viking saw the Samurai slowly drawing his arrow from his quiver with a bow in his hands....yet the Viking had a freaking shield the size of me on his arm?

I don't care how stupid Vikings are supposed to be, those two arrows should have been blocked while the Viking approached him.

[Neonivek]

Well remember the fight afterwords isn't supposed to be accurate anyhow or have ANY indication on how well the weapon did in the actual simulations.

It really is just for show.

[Cthulhu]

It's just a show, guys.  It's some guys in white lab coats(ostensibly "scientists") and some overenthusiastic martial artists, they put some numbers in a gussied up dice machine, and then have some actors run around swinging swords at each other.

If you're silly enough to get mad over it, I have a statue near Manhattan I'd like to sell you.

[Neonivek]

Besides getting angry at them only makes them get more viewers

[Phantom]

Lets see what all of them can do...
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Spoiler: Alright, what I think (click to show/hide)

Samurai
+Excellent at CQC
+Slightly good armor
+Quick
-Not really meant for the swashbuckling and fencing.
-A skilled bowman can take one down easily.
-Can't do crap on horse back without a Naginta, then again, they wouldn't be samurais. (Thats what I think)
Vikings.
+Armored
(Helpful) Determined
+Quick
+Useful with an axe or any melee weapon
-Then again, Bowmen...
-Rushing into battle will get you killed asshole
-Equipment=Heavy
-They pillage everything, what the hell are you gonna get?
-You also kill everyone, dammit, they even killed priests for having different religion.
Bowmen
+Kill you from afar
+No jam, no problem
+You can't rust wood you idiot!
+Easy to train, and equip
+Often way behind in fortified areas
-Please don't kill me Generic McSwordsman
-Ah shit, out of ammo.
-I just broke the string!
-I just broke the wood!
General Soldier (Axe, hammer, sword...)
+Now just slice/hit/stab them there...
+Easier than hitting the broad side of a barn, in fact the kick it.
+Ain't that bloodthirsty
+No Banzai Idiots for you.
-Now, how do we climb this wall?
-THE ARROWS BLOCKED OUT THE SUN!
-Weak spots in armor, in fact a lot of weak spots.
Knight
+You can't penetrate my plate mail with arrows!
+Oh im riding a horse through a battlefield and slicing the heads off the enemy...
+Stabbing while being on a horse (Lance)
+YOU MUST TRY HARDER TO SLICE THROUGH MY ARMOR!
-Heavy and slow
-Easily rushed
-Arrg, Spear/Pikemen, they stabbed me on horse back.
-ARRG DEAD HORSE
-Hard to even train
Mongols
+We conqured almost all the world...
+WAAGGGH!
+Stab stab slice slice arrow arrow
-Leather ain't really that good.
-Early, they killed eachother
They also tried to invade japan, typhoon foiled them
Chinese
+Armored
+Swords and all
+Leather and iron
-Had to fight for dominance early
-Had a paranoid emperor
Romans
+Armored
+Tactical
+Trained
+Great Fighters
-We didn't armor our legs...
-Sooner or later, that Turtle Tactic will be trumped
Pirates
+Gonna kill you at sea...
+Gonna Swashbuckle you
+We're gonna take all your money
-Oh shit they are fighting back
-Oh shit the Navy is coming
Huns
+Gonna shoot you while on horse back
+Slice slice
+Faster than you
-Always on the move
-Leather still ain't that good
They're leader died of a nose bleed

[Leafsnail]

The problem with longbows vs knights at, say, Agincourt, was:

1. The French had chosen (yeah, chivalry and all that) a very poor place to have the battle.  The field was so open that they couldn't use their massive extra numbers.
2. Many of their knights wanted glory, and thus charged too early.  In fact, they charged much too early, trampling their own footsoldiers.
3. The ground was muddy, and their super duper heavy cavalry couldn't get up to speed easily.
4. The longbowmen could fire a lot of shots, and a shot to a horse could cause it to bolt and fall.  A longbow arrow can also pierce some armour if it connects.
5. The knights were travelling too fast, and saw the sharpened stakes in the trench too late.  Their horses would smash into the spikes, or stop and have riders hurled onto them.
6. Once a knight is off his horse, a footsoldier could open up a joint in his armour, kill him, and steal his valuables.  Yes, the footsoldiers really were lowlifes.

[Rashilul]

Remember that knight was more of a status than anything else.

[Luke_Prowler]

Bah, these kind of VS. battle are stupid. They need to do the battles that are really important.

Like the God-Emperor Vs. The Hulk

[Heron TSG]

-You also kill everyone, dammit, they even killed priests for having different religion.

How is that a bad thing? (the killing everyone part)

And they didn't kill priests for having a different religion. They killed priests because they were in the same place as the loot.

[DJ]

I could see it being a draw in samurai versus knight. Knights had a shitload of heavy armor, that would make the katana virtually worthless. But it's heavy, meaning the knight would inch around the battlefield while the samurai in his lighter armor could dance around him. It would probably turn into a test of endurance. If the knight gets too exhausted he might trip, and the samurai could take his time to hit the weakspots on the armor. If the samurai gets too exhausted, he might not dodge all the way out of a cut, and the wound would slow him up.

That's a load of bollocks derived from Hollywood movies. While a full plate suite was indeed fairly heavy, the weight was well distributed. A fully armoured knight could do cartwheels and handstands, and certainly could mount a horse on his own. Main problem with armour is that it affects your centre of gravity, so you need to wear it for a long time to get a good feel for it before you can do these acrobatics.

[sonerohi]

I could see it being a draw in samurai versus knight. Knights had a shitload of heavy armor, that would make the katana virtually worthless. But it's heavy, meaning the knight would inch around the battlefield while the samurai in his lighter armor could dance around him. It would probably turn into a test of endurance. If the knight gets too exhausted he might trip, and the samurai could take his time to hit the weakspots on the armor. If the samurai gets too exhausted, he might not dodge all the way out of a cut, and the wound would slow him up.

That's a load of bollocks derived from Hollywood movies. While a full plate suite was indeed fairly heavy, the weight was well distributed. A fully armoured knight could do cartwheels and handstands, and certainly could mount a horse on his own. Main problem with armour is that it affects your centre of gravity, so you need to wear it for a long time to get a good feel for it before you can do these acrobatics.

Yah, I know that knights were fairly agile in them, but compared to a samurai, they're still lugging alot of extra weight. Usain Bolt would beat a Usain Bolt that was wearing a couple of parkas. Also, it depends on the era of the knight. I think it was blastforging or another technique that let them make armor just as strong but 2/3rds the weight. Also, them being able to run fast and be agile is a bit of a bad point. They couldn't do a dime-stop because they would tip. They had to run just a little slower and a little slower.