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[JoshuaFH]

Not really.

[Jackrabbit]

Not really.

[cowofdoom78963]

You guys are so negative, you dont always have to look at depression as a bad thing.

[Vester]

By definition it's a bad thing.

[cowofdoom78963]

By definition it's a bad thing.

By definition pain is also a bad thing, but you cant gain without pain.

So I would say "no depression, no life lesson"

[JoshuaFH]

I don't think you understand...

[Jackrabbit]

By definition it's a bad thing.

By definition pain is also a bad thing, but you cant gain without pain.

So I would say "no depression, no life lesson"

You're aware that Depression is a serious condition right? Depression is not something that builds moral fiber. It tears you down, chews you up and spits you out. Don't treat it lightly.

[cowofdoom78963]

By definition it's a bad thing.

By definition pain is also a bad thing, but you cant gain without pain.

So I would say "no depression, no life lesson"

You're aware that Depression is a serious condition right? Depression is not something that builds moral fiber. It tears you down, chews you up and spits you out. Don't treat it lightly.

Hey, your the only one who can decide that.

[Jackrabbit]

Depression is a common mental disorder that presents with depressed mood, loss of interest or pleasure, feelings of guilt or low self-worth, disturbed sleep or appetite, low energy, and poor concentration. These problems can become chronic or recurrent and lead to substantial impairments in an individual's ability to take care of his or her everyday responsibilities. At its worst, depression can lead to suicide, a tragic fatality associated with the loss of about 850 000 thousand lives every year.

I do want to make it clear I'm not angry in any way, nor do I mean to insult you, merely correct you. Please, don't take this as an insult. It's not, I promise.

[cowofdoom78963]

Depression is a common mental disorder that presents with depressed mood, loss of interest or pleasure, feelings of guilt or low self-worth, disturbed sleep or appetite, low energy, and poor concentration. These problems can become chronic or recurrent and lead to substantial impairments in an individual's ability to take care of his or her everyday responsibilities. At its worst, depression can lead to suicide, a tragic fatality associated with the loss of about 850 000 thousand lives every year.

I do want to make it clear I'm not angry in any way, nor do I mean to insult you, merely correct you. Please, don't take this as an insult. It's not, I promise.

I dont.

Anyway pain isent fun either, and can also lead to suicide or death, but we all go through with it so we can gain.


I believe the logic here is pretty simple Jack.

[ToonyMan]

Yep.  If you're depressed you will get great rewards later.

Heh.

[Hippoman]

C'mon now, Hippoman, you'll be okay. Persevere! If you're considering suicide, let me just say it won't help. It's the easy way out and, once again, it's a permanent solution to what will always be a temporary problem. Things won't be this way forever. Sure, they might change to something worse, but that won't be that way forever either.

It's all gonna be alright.

Now theres a load of bullshit i hear from everyone.

I am not soo suicidal that I'd actually kill myself today, plus if I did, I'd either do it on tv or kill others.

But going beyond that, its worse to live in this world then not live at all.

[cowofdoom78963]

But going beyond that, its worse to live in this world then not live at all.

Whats your point?

[Jackrabbit]

Anyway pain isent fun either, and can also lead to suicide or death, but we all go through with it so we can gain.


I believe the logic here is pretty simple Jack.

I think it's actually rather complex. No pain, no gain is, to me, a rather archaic phrase. The assumption that surviving pain makes you stronger strikes me as a pretty odd way of thinking. Things like disability, scarring and (in the case of, for example, depression) emotional scarring are not good things that all result from pain, both emotional and physical. Just because you've survived some sort of pain doesn't really mean you've gained, in any way. If anything, you've probably gotten worse, in the sense that you're now probably quite emotionally (and physically) scarred from said pain.

As for Hippoman, claiming that you'd (under some circumstances that you haven't defined) kill yourself on tv or kill others doesn't really make me want to continue to discuss this with you. If I honestly can't convince you life's worth living, I guess that's your problem, not mine. It's a bugger, and I'm a bit sad about that, but life's like that.

[Jackrabbit]

Does this strike anyone else as a pointless discussion in which neither side will ever convince the other?

Oh, right. Internet.