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Author Topic: LCS 4.00.5a Download - Now With 100% More Classic Mode  (Read 76303 times)

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Re: LCS 4.00.5a Download - Now With 100% More Classic Mode
« Reply #210 on: September 10, 2009, 11:43:54 pm »

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Well, if the nuclear power plant is shutdown, then the law would already be L+ meaning nuclear power is outlawed, so why not make it a "coal powerplant" and the big button shuts down the plant, blacks out the state, all in protest of how much it pollutes?

My problem with that is what if Pollution laws are L+? I doubt you're going to find many Liberals claiming that "Clean" Coal Power Plants are "Pollution-Free" (tm), and thus would survive in such an Elite Liberal Utopia. If the Coal Power Plant morphs into a Solar Power Plant if Nuclear Power and Pollution laws are L+, then what would be the motive for the LCS to press the Red Button?

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For simplicity's sake, I'd prefer implementing a meltdown that just permanently irradiated the site and killed your squad, leaving the rest of the game relatively unaffected. Perhaps you could still visit the site, but you'd take passive damage each turn and the only thing you could find would be hostile genetic monsters, the occasional friendly mutant, and some weird chemicals (which are a loot type already in the game). Locating the control room again would let you see the charred and looted bodies of your comrade martyrs.

I actually think that meltdown should actually be the intended action, not a horrible backfire. Causing a nuclear holocasut (as a form of political activism against the Arch-Conservative "deep state", of course) would pretty much convince people to abandon Nuclear Power.

EDIT: I just realized something. I need to modify LCS so that, when Animal Rights are L+, the "Cosmetics Labs" become "Underground Animal Testing Facilities", and freeing bunnies are no longer classifed as a crime (being considered vigliante actions).
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Re: LCS 4.00.5a Download - Now With 100% More Classic Mode
« Reply #211 on: September 11, 2009, 06:26:21 am »

"freeing bunnies is a vigilante action"

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ftr, I like the ideas Fox gives but I'd never think that the LCS would purposely contaminate like that.
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« Reply #212 on: September 11, 2009, 07:54:02 am »

Causing a nuclear holocasut (as a form of political activism against the Arch-Conservative "deep state", of course) would pretty much convince people to abandon Nuclear Power.

I would again argue that the major impediment to this as reasonable activism is that it would lead to indiscriminate civilian casualties. The LCS may have no compunction about going out and using the guns they want banned to maim and kill people, but they only want to maim and kill Conservatives. I.e., the "enemy". Triggering a large-scale disaster with casualties in the hundreds or thousands (or more) would pretty much destroy LCS credibility (possibly permanently) with even Liberals, and would presumably cause less-than-fanatical members to abandon the squad if not outright sell it out. Even if the LCS managed to stealthily perform the meltdown as an unclaimed action, massive casualties would be disheartening to all but the most hardened members who knew the actual cause.

Additionally, it seems like the massive boost to the Nuclear issue would probably be offset by a massive hit to Police, as well as possibly to Military and Privacy. Preventive backlash against another 9-11, and whatnot.
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« Reply #213 on: September 11, 2009, 11:18:21 am »

How about failing to use the button actually makes the plant run more smoothly thus causing people to support the use of NPP's?

"Thor Fingleton Liberally palms the buttons on the control panel like the maverick he is."

"The screen flickers for a second then reads: Power output increased 270%" (Or something like that)

"Thor Fingleton has failed the LCS"
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« Reply #214 on: September 11, 2009, 11:50:06 am »

The game is great so far...

I love the additions.  The Wanted status are awesome.

But the game has just crashed... :(
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Microsoft Visual C++ Debug Library
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Debug Assertion Failed!

Program: ... documentos\Juegos\Roguelike\lcs_win32_4.00.5a\crimesquad.exe
File: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\include\vector
Line: 779

Expression: vector subscript out of range

For information on how your program can cause an assertion
failure, see the Visual C++ documentation on asserts.

(Press Retry to debug the application)
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Anular   Reintentar   Omitir   
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EDIT:  I had 4 guys in jail.  Grabbed by some mercenaries and rednecks... :P

1 guy in the hospital and was trying to persuade some people to join me with my leader...

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« Reply #215 on: September 11, 2009, 12:01:54 pm »

Bug: Hostages in rented safehouses will "return" the the LCS at the homeless shelter after years of ignored because of disbanding.

In captivity: 1936 days.
Location: Away.
Days until return: 1 day.
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« Reply #216 on: September 11, 2009, 02:12:06 pm »

Not so much a bug as an inquiry.  Nightmare Mode is my first experience with a severely conservative society.  What strikes me as odd is that, even with all laws solidly red, including gun laws, it's still illegal to carry an AK-47 in the open.  Isn't that kind of the point of super-conservative gun policy, at least from a game sense?
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« Reply #217 on: September 11, 2009, 02:18:03 pm »

Seeing the latest release of this game always makes me cry with joy. :'(

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« Reply #218 on: September 11, 2009, 02:20:04 pm »

Carrying an AK-47 in nightmare mode is not illegal, per se, as you aren't actually charged with anything other than loitering if you're caught doing it; but it is highly suspicious. Even in a C+ society, most of the averages Joes and Janes that are packing heat are carrying concealed pistols.

But you may be right. Perhaps they should be green or yellow instead of red in C+ society.
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« Reply #219 on: September 11, 2009, 04:43:20 pm »

Carrying an AK-47 in nightmare mode is not illegal, per se, as you aren't actually charged with anything other than loitering if you're caught doing it; but it is highly suspicious. Even in a C+ society, most of the averages Joes and Janes that are packing heat are carrying concealed pistols.

But you may be right. Perhaps they should be green or yellow instead of red in C+ society.
Eh, most average....  but you still see non-conservatives, like gang members and others who do occasionally carry more then concealed pistols.  They get no flak for that...
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« Reply #220 on: September 11, 2009, 08:46:47 pm »

Well, 6 random guys in trenchcoats, strapped with Ak'47s walking into the courthouse is probably going to look out of place no matter what.

Maybe it should just be green in the Park and apartments, while its red everywhere else.

On the same note, the M-4 weapon is red-status while wearing the Death Squad uniform, which seems a little strange.
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« Reply #221 on: September 11, 2009, 09:03:02 pm »

I have to say, I quite enjoyed my first run as a professional thief. And I'm loving the new features.

Cheers, Jon!
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« Reply #222 on: September 11, 2009, 09:41:23 pm »

if starting as a gang memeber you should have a pistol if oyu didn't choose the AK option
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« Reply #223 on: September 12, 2009, 12:30:31 am »

I'm playing in nightmare mode, and Death Penalty seems to have jumped to L+.  I'm not sure how this can be, since I've been active for only about 3 months and no liberal laws have passed.
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« Reply #224 on: September 12, 2009, 12:40:01 am »

Maybe The Man pulled an Ilwrath and got so evil that society wrapped around back to super liberal?  Or the ruling elites decided keeping criminals alive as slaves was better than executing everyone.

Realistically though, that does sound buggy, or at least unbalanced.
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