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[jaked122]

in entity default there is a list of allowed professions, if I remove [PERMITTED_JOB:SOAP_MAKER], will no more soap makers show up?

[Daywalkah]

Yes, no more soap makers should show up,  but you would have to regen.

[jaked122]

YAY

[Rowanas]

Sir, you have single-handedly eradicated the most useless people in the DF world. I salute you. I'll be implementing this ASAP, and I might get rid of a few of the other crappy people.

No more fish dissectors, milkers, cheesemakers, animal dissectors or lye makers!

If you turned off, say, woodcrafting, would you be forever safe from people going fey and becoming woodcrafters, and if, by extension, you eliminated all the crafting jobs would you only get dwarves going fey with useful skills?

[Kashyyk]

Potentially, but then what will you trade with?

[Vieto]

If you turned off, say, woodcrafting, would you be forever safe from people going fey and becoming woodcrafters, and if, by extension, you eliminated all the crafting jobs would you only get dwarves going fey with useful skills?

So, lets say you run out of arrows and bones...

[Rowanas]

Kashykk, I would trade with the infinitely more valuable gems.

Vieto, I would use copper for bolts in my magma forge and the bones would be... um... I'll create a smelter reaction requiring piles of bones for something. Problem solved.

[Fedor]

The way to make immigrants useful is to train them.  I love dwarves with soapmaking (or many other "useless" skills) because:
1) After I stick them in the barracks for a while to wrestle and then return them to civilian life, they don't get a second unhappy mood due to being relieved of duty to be a peasant.  Makes 'em great for militia.
2) I can pick any strange mood-capable skill, have them do just one job in it, and viola!  If that dwarf ever gets a strange mood, they'll go with that skill (as long as I'm careful not to later have them do work in a different strange mode-capable skill).  Instant Legendary Armorsmith!

[G-Flex]

I'm not sure the stated solution is true at all.

I've talked to people who have played as elves, kobolds, etc., who talk about nonpermitted job migrants STILL showing up.

[BurnedToast]

The first thing that came to mind when I read 'making immigrants useful' was some sort of modded smelter reaction that uses dwarf bones to make adamantine.

Does that make me a bad person?

[Holy Mittens]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they'll still show up. The only difference is you won't be able to turn that job on/off.

[Rowanas]

Are you sure they regenned? I think this matter requires some experimentation, is anyone willing to gen up a fresh vanilla DF with only a few starting jobs allowed and wait it out until the first migrants show up?

[Warlord255]

The way to make immigrants useful is to train them.  I love dwarves with soapmaking (or many other "useless" skills) because:
1) After I stick them in the barracks for a while to wrestle and then return them to civilian life, they don't get a second unhappy mood due to being relieved of duty to be a peasant.  Makes 'em great for militia.
2) I can pick any strange mood-capable skill, have them do just one job in it, and viola!  If that dwarf ever gets a strange mood, they'll go with that skill (as long as I'm careful not to later have them do work in a different strange mode-capable skill).  Instant Legendary Armorsmith!

This is my solution.

Also, one thing I do is I sort my jobs with the Military screen in a hierarchy, and co-opt new immigrants as sidekicks for existing skilled dwarves. E.G. a team of furnace operaters/wood burners to assist my weaponsmith.

[smokingwreckage]

Assign them a useful Labour, turn every other labour off, cha-ching.

[Chariot]

I tend to stick all my useless immigrants to masonry and carpentry, and then turn workshops to only accept novice and above. Building constructions doesn't seem to give any skill, or vary in time based on skill, so I use the swarm of uselessness to build large constructions quickly, and it doesn't interfere with me getting them all to slight skill in weaponsmithing/armorsmithing/blacksmithing for moods.