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[Vester]

Also, no repeat customers.

Rat poison is actually cheap where I live, so it's not too illogical in terms of cost for them to cut the local cocaine variant with it, but it is illogical since you're not supposed to kill your buyers (at least directly.)

But, yeah, that's just idle speculation on my part.

[DJ]

I think powdered milk is most commonly used to cut coke and heroin. It's fairly cheap, and won't kill the customer. Drug dealers rely on repeat business (reduces risk of running into an undercover cop), so anything that kills customers is bad for business.

[Puck]

I think powdered milk is easiest to spot, from the taste, however. I heard that slight toxicity induces bodily reactions that are similar to "upping" drugs. You know, alertness, being awake and stuff. So under that light strychnine would make sense. Dont know whether it's true or not.

I would say chert (hope that's the right word) is an alright alternative. No taste, no effect, no toxicity. Just weight. And it's cheap to boot.

All the stuff I know I just know from books and talking to friends. So no real first hand experience. I just want to say "people, be skeptical". When it comes to drug prohibition, we're being fed lies without end while we have masses of people dying from one of the hardest and most dangerous drugs out there - alcohol.

Always be skeptical, always think and research yourself. That's all I wanted to say.

[DJ]

It's not like anyone expects to get pure drug. Every junkie knows that his heroin has at best 1/5 heroin in it, and the rest is filler.

I would say chert (hope that's the right word) is an alright alternative.

I now have a sudden urge to sell heroin cut with microcline.

[Puck]

So basically, when you shoot up, and it's really kickin you can shout

I HAVE STRUCK MICROCLINE!

[Zangi]

Scenario A: So some schmoe dealer cuts his drugs with rat poison.  A few of his regulars die.

Scenario B: A bigger distributor cuts his drugs with rat poison and sells it down to his dealers.  A lot of regulars die, even a few of your own dealers.

1.  You lose regulars.  Permanently.
2.  Reputation and credibility, down the drain and your regulars look for some other dealer who is trying to get in on your territory.


Who in their right mind?  These guys are for the cash cow profit. 
Not the sell them a crap toaster and forget about em cause you know they'll never come back type of business.

[Leafsnail]

Drugs aren't directly poisoned, but there's another problem.  Let's say you've been taking a 20% pure drug that has been cut with 80% washing powder/ powdered milk/ sand/ whatever.  This means you take about 5 times more "drug" than is actually needed to get high.  Then you get a pure or almost pure version, possibly from someone else, possibly from the dealer doing irregular practises or having an unreliable supplier.  The risk of an overdose now becomes rather high.

Basically, uncertain purities with a toxic substance is always going to be dangerous.  Imagine if, for instance, a pint of beer could contain anywhere from 0.5 to 8 units of alcohol.

[Enzo]

Rat Poison? Powdered Milk? Sand? I've only ever heard of it being cut with Baking Powder*, and the reason they do that is pure cocaine would make your brain explode or something. Cutting it is usually supposed to make it safer. Of course, this is not my particular area of expertise.

*or Baking Soda. One of the two.

[Cthulhu]

Those are the risks inherent with being a druggie.

And anyway, I'm pretty sure the reason they cut it is to make the supply last longer.  I'm sure pure cocaine would do no such thing, considering it's been used for a few hundred years, and I doubt they cut it the first few times they used it.

As for what they cut it with, again, they're drug dealers.  I'm sure they cut it with whatever they can find.

[JoshuaFH]

I'm not too familiar with drug terminology to be honest, so may I ask what "cutting" something means? I'm guessing it means that the Cocaine or other drug is mixed with something in order to dilute it, making it safer, and increasing the supply. Am I right?

[Cthulhu]

Yeah, that's basically it.

[Enzo]

Those are the risks inherent with being a druggie.

And anyway, I'm pretty sure the reason they cut it is to make the supply last longer.  I'm sure pure cocaine would do no such thing, considering it's been used for a few hundred years, and I doubt they cut it the first few times they used it.

As for what they cut it with, again, they're drug dealers.  I'm sure they cut it with whatever they can find.

Just to point out, when they first started using cocaine they didn't have a method to extract the drug, they just used the coca leaf. Also, they ate it and didn't snort it, so it would be absorbed into the body at about 10% the speed. I'm pretty certain snorting pure cocaine would kill anybody without an amazing tolerance built up, but hey, never tried it, don't know. It's just what I've heard.
They do cut it more than they have to so that their supply lasts longer, you're definitely right about that.

[Cthulhu]

By "The first times they used it" I mean after they had isolated the chemical that gave the leaf its properties.

I don't know though, I don't research drugs.

[Leafsnail]

Pure cocaine would be no worse than taking the same amount mixed with another substance, I think.  The reason I said sand was to point out it didn't matter which exact material it was mixed with .

[Enzo]

Well, it's the same reason a single shot of moonshine will destroy you compared to the equivalent amount of alcohol absorbed through beer, it's a lot harder on your body when it hits you all at once. In cocaines case, I think it's particularly hard on your heart, the brain exploding thing was hyperbole...

...So...nobody else has anything to say about Mexico's new laws then?