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Neruz

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Re: Murlocs, Oh God...
« Reply #75 on: September 19, 2009, 01:56:56 am »

Meeting Murlocs in battle on an open plain with melee troops is really unsmart, unless they've got plenty of armor (Murloc's thankfully don't do too much damage, making them more Goddamn Bats and less Demonic Spiders.)

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« Reply #76 on: September 19, 2009, 03:26:03 am »

as soon as i embarked around a hundred zombie murlocs jumped out of the water of course my wagon was right next to a lake...
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Re: Murlocs, Oh God...
« Reply #77 on: September 19, 2009, 03:31:43 am »

Zombie Murlocs aren't too bad, Skeletal Murlocs you need to watch out for.


But yeah, avoid rivers like the plague, You seem to get, on average, nearly 20 - 30 Murlocs per 1 - 2 tiles of river. I had a 12 tile UG River that i seriously regretted accidentally digging into (Murlocs are one of the few critters with a swim speed fast enough to get up small waterfalls...)

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Re: Murlocs, Oh God...
« Reply #78 on: September 19, 2009, 09:06:46 am »

Zombie Murlocs aren't too bad, Skeletal Murlocs you need to watch out for.


But yeah, avoid rivers like the plague, You seem to get, on average, nearly 20 - 30 Murlocs per 1 - 2 tiles of river. I had a 12 tile UG River that i seriously regretted accidentally digging into (Murlocs are one of the few critters with a swim speed fast enough to get up small waterfalls...)

I'm sorry... did you say they can SWIM

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Re: Murlocs, Oh God...
« Reply #79 on: September 19, 2009, 01:25:14 pm »

Just tried this and ... wow, this is so much fun! Must try a little moddification - make them weaker and double their population.
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Re: Murlocs, Oh God...
« Reply #80 on: September 19, 2009, 04:33:17 pm »

Meeting Murlocs in battle on an open plain with melee troops is really unsmart, unless they've got plenty of armor (Murloc's thankfully don't do too much damage, making them more Goddamn Bats and less Demonic Spiders.)

Actually, it turned out okay. Most of em seemed to just run past my guys and jump in the ocean. Managed to kill 14 of them, no deaths. I suspect that wasn't intended behavior though, since if a murlock got skewered his buddies wouldn't care less and just run on by. Totally ignored the civies that came running to grab the corpses too. And since that incident all theyve done is sit there off the coast and chill.

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Re: Murlocs, Oh God...
« Reply #81 on: September 19, 2009, 10:15:32 pm »

Meeting Murlocs in battle on an open plain with melee troops is really unsmart, unless they've got plenty of armor (Murloc's thankfully don't do too much damage, making them more Goddamn Bats and less Demonic Spiders.)

Actually, it turned out okay. Most of em seemed to just run past my guys and jump in the ocean. Managed to kill 14 of them, no deaths. I suspect that wasn't intended behavior though, since if a murlock got skewered his buddies wouldn't care less and just run on by. Totally ignored the civies that came running to grab the corpses too. And since that incident all theyve done is sit there off the coast and chill.



Yeah, Murlocs when they first spawn seem to gravitate towards the nearest source of water, they then either sit in the water indefinitely, or randomly decide to leap out and attack everything in sight.


Probably best to avoid the water.


And yes, Murlocs can swim up small waterfalls; if the waterfall is only a single z level drop, or if water is piling up enough to make a solid 'line' from the bottom to the top, Murlocs can and will swim up it and savage your guys taunting them from the 'safety' of the cliffs.

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Re: Murlocs, Oh God...
« Reply #82 on: September 21, 2009, 03:47:16 pm »

hmm i see you hace [PET] and [trAINABLE] tags in there. Can you say murlocs fighting murlocs?
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Re: Murlocs, Oh God...
« Reply #83 on: September 21, 2009, 04:47:31 pm »

why use so weak a monster
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Re: Murlocs, Oh God...
« Reply #84 on: September 21, 2009, 06:48:50 pm »

I don't see [BUTCHERABLE] tag.

how do you add it? 'cause i will. I want murloc butchering!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #85 on: September 21, 2009, 07:25:20 pm »

I think you should be able to; by default i'm pretty sure everything is butcherable. Murlocs don't speak so that shouldn't be a problem, can_learn might get in the way though.

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« Reply #86 on: September 25, 2009, 02:14:47 pm »

I don't see [BUTCHERABLE] tag.

how do you add it? 'cause i will. I want murloc butchering!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mmm, [Murloc Fin Soup]...
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« Reply #87 on: September 26, 2009, 04:14:18 am »

So i decided to mod Murlocs into my game. This has turned out to be a gigantic mistake;

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(The super-low colddam and heatdam points are so they'll survive anywhere, glaciers, deserts, you name it, it has Murlocs.)


They appear in gigantic neverending swarms and immediately leap out of the river, charging all over the map to hunt down native wildlife, dwarves, invaders, the works.

I even made some graphics for them! :D





But yeah, thought i'd post this here in case anyone else feels like being an incredible masochist, individually Murlocs aren't dangerous, but they come by the dozen and they range all over the map, eating everything and anything in sight (they will hunt other native wildlife, i had a pack of Murlocs hunt down some deer and tear them to shreds.)

I'm sure if i can work out how to survive the first season i'll be fine, but i'll be damned if i can work out how to survive the first season, i almost always get a big ball of Murlocs charging into the fort within the first season, and if i manage to kill the buggers off more just migrate in.

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Re: Murlocs, Oh God...
« Reply #88 on: September 26, 2009, 06:12:55 am »

Right there in the post; go for it.

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Re: Murlocs, Oh God...
« Reply #89 on: September 26, 2009, 09:29:45 am »

I think this is what you need to make the art work. For those that don't know how. Adjust [FILE:] as needed.

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