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[SeaBee]

Basics, yea, but you can do much less with the basic in blender than you can with the basics in other programs, stuff like procedural generation and physics simulation and advanced optical effects are much much further away, and really needed if you want anything good.
Blender is good for causal peaple doing MS piant level doodles, or for making models for some indie game or mod or visualization software, but doing artwork and serious movies with it, while possible, fall into the same category as [bizarre item] stop motion, or that one guy who makes hyper detailed sculptures inside the eyes of needles, etc.

Not to derail this thread, but WHOA ... bit of disinformation there. MS paint level doodles? Check out the Blender.org gallery. Fluid simulation, physics, particle sim, hair/fur ... all of that is very much present (without additional plugins). Procedural systems are easy to utilize (and extend with Python, which is superior to MEL). The quality of the artist determines the quality of the final output, not the tools used.

And I say this as a Maya user. Blender has excellent capabilities. Check out the sculpting tools, the awesome (way better than Autodesk) unwrapping tools (even beats Max's pelt system), the soft-body system ... heck, just visit http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/feature-videos/ and see some demonstrations.

Compare and contrast software by all means. But don't make things up! The interface is quite a bit different, but certainly fast (far more keyboard-centric than Maya, and you can easily code your own hot box / marking menus or use pre-existing ones).

But anyway. Yeah. All 3D software is capable of making great art. It's the artist that delivers quality (or lack of quality), every contemporary and popular 3D app available today is far better than anything the pros were using 10 years ago.

MS Paint. *shakes head sadly* Wow. Big Buck Bunny (http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/index.php/download/) ain't MS Paint, and those guys are not Pixar-level professionals. Still, good results.

[Armok]

Basics, yea, but you can do much less with the basic in blender than you can with the basics in other programs, stuff like procedural generation and physics simulation and advanced optical effects are much much further away, and really needed if you want anything good.
Blender is good for causal peaple doing MS piant level doodles, or for making models for some indie game or mod or visualization software, but doing artwork and serious movies with it, while possible, fall into the same category as [bizarre item] stop motion, or that one guy who makes hyper detailed sculptures inside the eyes of needles, etc.

Not to derail this thread, but WHOA ... bit of disinformation there. MS paint level doodles? Check out the Blender.org gallery. Fluid simulation, physics, particle sim, hair/fur ... all of that is very much present (without additional plugins). Procedural systems are easy to utilize (and extend with Python, which is superior to MEL). The quality of the artist determines the quality of the final output, not the tools used.

And I say this as a Maya user. Blender has excellent capabilities. Check out the sculpting tools, the awesome (way better than Autodesk) unwrapping tools (even beats Max's pelt system), the soft-body system ... heck, just visit http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/feature-videos/ and see some demonstrations.

Compare and contrast software by all means. But don't make things up! The interface is quite a bit different, but certainly fast (far more keyboard-centric than Maya, and you can easily code your own hot box / marking menus or use pre-existing ones).

But anyway. Yeah. All 3D software is capable of making great art. It's the artist that delivers quality (or lack of quality), every contemporary and popular 3D app available today is far better than anything the pros were using 10 years ago.

MS Paint. *shakes head sadly* Wow. Big Buck Bunny (http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/index.php/download/) ain't MS Paint, and those guys are not Pixar-level professionals. Still, good results.

Ok, ok, maybe I *DID* base what I said only on hearsay and 3 minutes of geting frustrated at not finding hotkeys before I gave up...
I've seen those movies, I just assumed they were anomalies and that much more hours were put into them than what making the equivalent in Maya would take.
Well, I guess atleast I shuld retain some dignity by admiting i were wrong, by all means try Blender and see if this is true, I am becoming sorta agnostic on this issue. (Not religeon related in any way, it was just the closest fitting word.)

[Muz]

A list of every modern invention in history would be a good place to figure out what kind of skills you want to learn

[Hippoman]

A list of every modern invention in history would be a good place to figure out what kind of skills you want to learn

What exactly do i get from this?

[Muz]

Schematics for like every invention ever patented. Poke around, find something cool, and learn the skills you need to build it. Or get new ideas for other stuff to invent. Though, if you're not the type to creatively make random stuff, you won't really get anything out of it.

[Zombie0hour]

Hippo I feel ya. I just drag on days doing nothing when i should be doing something like programming.. but I can't help it. I feel as if I am wasting half of my life away on this damn computer but meh. You should take up something like giving hand jobs. You can make a lot of money, and there are lots of 40 year old men who would love to get one.

[Hippoman]

Schematics for like every invention ever patented. Poke around, find something cool, and learn the skills you need to build it. Or get new ideas for other stuff to invent. Though, if you're not the type to creatively make random stuff, you won't really get anything out of it.

I am. but i have no access to supplies. or money.

Hippo I feel ya. I just drag on days doing nothing when i should be doing something like programming.. but I can't help it. I feel as if I am wasting half of my life away on this damn computer but meh. You should take up something like giving hand jobs. You can make a lot of money, and there are lots of 40 year old men who would love to get one.

You should be programming. Make that fedulae thing. or another or something. Or make World's End. meh whatever. do something. Or do what I do. Give up becuase its too late right now, either commit suicide or try to stop it from happening to others.

[Muz]

There are plenty that don't need items. Some are filled with flowcharts. Though that patent is some epic application of philosophy rather than some science

[Hippoman]

*I dont want any response to this as it happens to be my own OPINION*
I think philosophy is useless. And i cant believe my brother is majoring it.

What would flowcharts do for me?

[jaked122]

I learned carpentry when I was 13, I build a go cart... It worked, but I didn't have the money nor the springs to build a suspension, it's wheel flew apart in a pothole.

[userpay]

Hmm if you have a community college nearby check out some of their classes, for example I'm taking ornamental ironwork and all my mats are covered in the class for projects unless I want to do my own thing which only costs like a $1 per pound or foot or something like that. I'm going to have alot of fun in this class lol.

[Hippoman]

I learned carpentry when I was 13, I build a go cart... It worked, but I didn't have the money nor the springs to build a suspension, it's wheel flew apart in a pothole.

would love to but cant buy materials.

Hmm if you have a community college nearby check out some of their classes, for example I'm taking ornamental ironwork and all my mats are covered in the class for projects unless I want to do my own thing which only costs like a $1 per pound or foot or something like that. I'm going to have alot of fun in this class lol.

would super super love to but i dont know where one is and i have no way of getting there.

[Kusgnos]

Bboy, or breakdance. I do it. It's fun, rewarding, feels good when you learn a new move, and gives you a new form of expression. Many people learn just by videos and forums, and you can start here.

[userpay]

I learned carpentry when I was 13, I build a go cart... It worked, but I didn't have the money nor the springs to build a suspension, it's wheel flew apart in a pothole.

would love to but cant buy materials.

Hmm if you have a community college nearby check out some of their classes, for example I'm taking ornamental ironwork and all my mats are covered in the class for projects unless I want to do my own thing which only costs like a $1 per pound or foot or something like that. I'm going to have alot of fun in this class lol.

would super super love to but i dont know where one is and i have no way of getting there.

Dude ask your parents, maybe you can bike to it or depending on the times they can drop ye off.

[Hippoman]

I learned carpentry when I was 13, I build a go cart... It worked, but I didn't have the money nor the springs to build a suspension, it's wheel flew apart in a pothole.

would love to but cant buy materials.

Hmm if you have a community college nearby check out some of their classes, for example I'm taking ornamental ironwork and all my mats are covered in the class for projects unless I want to do my own thing which only costs like a $1 per pound or foot or something like that. I'm going to have alot of fun in this class lol.

would super super love to but i dont know where one is and i have no way of getting there.

Dude ask your parents, maybe you can bike to it or depending on the times they can drop ye off.

Im not going to bike 7 miles to a place i dont even know exists. Lol. the closest one could be even 20+miles away.
I would love to ask my parents, if they werehnt already busy with shit. Dad with work and mom being a mom. And trust me, with all the shit she does, she does NOT have time. :c