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Mulch Diggums

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Any Japense speakers?
« on: August 25, 2009, 03:48:06 am »

Any one who speaks Japanese, or can read it preferably, please tell me what this says.

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Re: Any Japense speakers?
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2009, 03:59:42 am »

That's not Japanese, that's Simplified Chinese.

It said, (translated line by line)

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OT: For Japanese you should not see a lot of block characters, you'd see much less of them, with a lot of simplistic characters with lots of curves.

This is Japanese:
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This is Chinese (the right-most line is the modern script):
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The similar characters in Japanese are borrowed from Chinese... many of them look the same but with completely different meanings.

e.g. 湯 means "soup" in Chinese, but "bath water" in Japanese.

But they all look like tiny pictures of wriggling lines to you I guess. ;)
« Last Edit: August 25, 2009, 04:08:04 am by kcwong »
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Re: Any Japense speakers?
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2009, 04:07:19 am »

Ah, I always thought the website I was on was Japanese. Well, thanks for the translation Kcwong!
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Re: Any Japense speakers?
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2009, 04:17:25 am »



Err... The left ones are hieroglyphs? So the Chinese have them too, I guess...

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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2009, 05:50:26 am »

Err... The left ones are hieroglyphs? So the Chinese have them too, I guess...

Yes, Chinese characters are logograms, but they are classified into six subtypes. Those in the picture above are all of the type  Pictograms (form imitation).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character_classification
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2009, 09:14:00 am »

Ow. My brain, which is conditioned to accept phonetic words (latin + arabic) is now hurts.

Very.

On a side note, the picture is trash-looking with the darkling theme.
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2009, 10:48:08 am »

I grabbed those images from a Google image search... both are GIF files, and the Chinese one has transparent background.

Works fine with the default light blue theme.
« Last Edit: August 25, 2009, 10:50:59 am by kcwong »
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2009, 11:13:51 am »

Ow. My brain, which is conditioned to accept phonetic words (latin + arabic) is now hurts.

Very.


For real. There's no way I'm ever even trying to learn Chinese. Of course it helps that I have no interest. Alphabets are what's up.
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Re: Any Japense speakers?
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2009, 04:53:44 am »

Ow. My brain, which is conditioned to accept phonetic words (latin + arabic) is now hurts.

Very.


For real. There's no way I'm ever even trying to learn Chinese. Of course it helps that I have no interest. Alphabets are what's up.

But I want to know Japanese, eh.

Edit: Also, Austronesians have their own logograms too! (BUT ARE HERESY AND MUST BE BURNED!)
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Re: Any Japense speakers?
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2009, 07:34:24 am »

Technically, you can learn Japanese without Kanji - you just can't read most of it.

Everything can be written in hiragana/katakana, but there are so many homonyms that it's rare to write much without using Kanji.
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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2009, 09:13:48 am »

Technically, you can learn Japanese without Kanji - you just can't read most of it.

Everything can be written in hiragana/katakana, but there are so many homonyms that it's rare to write much without using Kanji.
Yesh, I know. I am now re-learning hiragana.
Kanji... is... hell. I need furigana to read them.
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Re: Any Japense speakers?
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2009, 10:30:19 pm »

I just hate how it's more efficient to write kana, but kanji is still used extensively.

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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2009, 11:55:02 pm »

I just hate how it's more efficient to write kana, but kanji is still used extensively.

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Maybe they think it's cool... just like how they continue to use English regardless of how many embarrassing errors and jokes they are creating.

But then again, maybe not. I heard kanji is taught in school in Japan and students are required to use it.
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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2009, 01:51:00 am »

Or like how we continue to get Chinese tattoos and lettering on on bodies and clothes despite the hilarious failures.
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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2009, 01:59:25 am »

Ow. My brain, which is conditioned to accept phonetic words (latin + arabic) is now hurts.

Very.


For real. There's no way I'm ever even trying to learn Chinese. Of course it helps that I have no interest. Alphabets are what's up.

Do you have any idea how Goddamn painful it is to learn this language? I'm giving up and trying German. At least I can write German.
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