Wow. So it turns out the one thing that can get Armok riled up is discussion of perceiving 4dimentional space.
Who'da thunk it.
"Christians? Well, I personally believe they are wrong, but many great scientists were Christians. What religion or lack thereof, nor morality, plays much into religion really. Most people simply follow whatever belief their parent and friends had, and all belief systems have fair shares both of monsters, shepple, and geniuses."
"Nazi? Actually, most of the Nazi were "just honest peaple who believed what their leaders said, and a many (most?) of them probably didnt even know what was happening. Several psychological experiment show that most people would have done the same. Even Hitler was probably more insane than evil, in the end."
" 'Ooook AAh Aah'? I personally believe that apes should count as persons, euality and all that, there is no real difference to humans. Here, have this
hyperlink."
"You don't believe that monkey should have Equal rights? *sigh* Please read a bit more on that page I linked, if that dosn't change your mind I guess there is nothing I can do abaut it.
By the way, it's APES, not monkeys"
"Heh, sorry I guess. Well, thechnicaly my parents werent maried, and I'm not sure if my mum is a canine but it wouldnt suprise me to much. My mum dont have a basement, but the rest of what you said was spot on!
By the way, how does one sleep WITHOUT touching oneself?"
"WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DONT BELIVE ME WHEN i SAY i CAN SIMULATE A DETAILEDD UNIVERSE WITH 7 DDIMENTIONS WEREOF TWO TIME!?!?! U SAY SO ONLY BECAUSE U CANT AND I CAN AND IF YOU CANT YOUR A F*KING IDIOT AND U INSULT ME BY SAYING i CANT AND YOURE EVEIL!!!!!!! RAAAGE!!!!"
Seriously thou, I'm getting sick of this flame war, you people are wrong and you either know it, or are firm enought in your position that nothing I say here will change your mind, you have still cited no evidence what so ever, and having read "flatland" does not make you an authority on this.
However, thanceding such thing is simply that I am talking about my own personal (if anecdotal) experience, that it so far seems I know more about the related subjects than anyone else active in this thread, and most importantly that THE ENTIRE THING IS COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE TO BEGIN WITH. Unless someone has a reveal about being a psychology professor specialising in perception, or Toady comes welding his math Phd, you wont be able to prove anything. And unless I get a bunch of other people who agree with me, or and MRI and a webcam, I wont be able to prove anything either.
We're currently ganging up on Armok trying to convince him the notion of perceiving the 4th dimension is craaaazy, if you want to join in
Hey guys, bullying isn't cool! It's OK Armok, I totally see where you're coming from. People always act like I'm crazy when I try to convince them that I can see in infrared if I concentrate hard enough.
With friends like these, who need enemies...
Seeing infrared and seeing 4d is not the same thing, visualizing something is a completely mental process, while seeing infrared would require your eyes to be differently constructed... That said, while my eyes cant see the actual infrared, adding an extra colour channel to something visualised and making it corespond to what infrared would look like is trivial.