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[A_Fey_Dwarf]

Hmm, I'll have to trust Janus here and vote against Nuke as well.
Mostly because ether way one of you two are scum. The chances are Janus is telling the truth as he has claimed medium and his relaying of what webadict says seems sensible enough.

[Rysith]

I too trust Janus to be a medium, and to be in contact with Webadict. I'll vote Nuke, on similar logic as Frelock:

If Nuke flips Exterminator, hurrah! We've got AFD + one dopp left, and a (possibly still living) medium.

If Nuke flips town, then we lynch Janus, and we've got AFD + one scum (likely the exterminator) left. Harder, but still definitely possible.

And yes, I fully believe that AFD is one of our remaining dopps.

[A_Fey_Dwarf]

Yeah well just because toony blocked me and there were no kills, doesn't mean i'm scum. There are always other options. It is also perfectly reasonable for there to be two town warlocks.

You are saying with 100% conviction that I am scum. But how can you be 100% sure. Lynching me will likely cause two townies to dies, me and a random voter. This double death of scum could be all the last dopp needs to win.

[Rysith]

I too trust Janus to be a medium, and to be in contact with Webadict. I'll vote Nuke, on similar logic as Frelock:

If Nuke flips Exterminator, hurrah! We've got AFD + one dopp left, and a (possibly still living) medium.

If Nuke flips town, then we lynch Janus, and we've got AFD + one scum (likely the exterminator) left. Harder, but still definitely possible.

And yes, I fully believe that AFD is one of our remaining dopps.

Bah, and I'm too tired to remember to finish my analysis in my post:

If Nuke flips Dopp, then we've got AFD + the exterminator left. Still two kills, but also still likely manageable. It's probably the worst of the outcomes, but also seems like one of the least likely given AFD's willingness to vote for Nuke.

[Xegeth]

I'm going to vote Nuke for similar reasons to everyone else. It also seems very unlikely that there would be two dopp mediums.

[NUKE9.13]

Gah
Fine, you got me. Well done, well done.
I am a Holy Knight of the Vangalan Order of the Holy Suns, come to this town to cleanse it of the doppelganger's evil touch. And that means killing everyone, yes. It's for your own good! You shall never enter the Heaven of the Suns if you are not cleansed!

By which I mean
If you lynch me now, you lose.
Observe.
There are 7 people alive, of which 2 dopps and one exterminator.
You lynch me and there are 6 people alive, of which 2 dopps
Tonight, the dopps kill a townie. 5:2
*You lynch AFD, one random townie dies. 3:1
The last dopp kills. 2:1                                           
Dopp victory.       
*You lynch the other dopp. You have to know who is it, because if you miss: 4:2, dopp victory.
*You get the right dopp. 4:1. NK 3:1. Lynch AFD 1:0, town victory. v/ risky.

If you lynch someone else, though, I can kill AFD for you. Sure, I can't possibly win, but at least I can prevent the dopps from winning, which, I figure, means the taint won't spread, which is a partial victory for me, at least.
Do the right thing
Trust the crazy fanatic murder alien to kill your other crazy murderer aliens for you.

[Pandarsenic]

Gah
Fine, you got me. Well done, well done.
I am a Holy Knight of the Vangalan Order of the Holy Suns, come to this town to cleanse it of the doppelganger's evil touch. And that means killing everyone, yes. It's for your own good! You shall never enter the Heaven of the Suns if you are not cleansed!

By which I mean
If you lynch me now, you lose.
Observe.
There are 7 people alive, of which 2 dopps and one exterminator.
You lynch me and there are 6 people alive, of which 2 dopps
Tonight, the dopps kill a townie. 5:2
*You lynch AFD, one random townie dies. 3:1
The last dopp kills. 2:1                                           
Dopp victory.       
*You lynch the other dopp. You have to know who is it, because if you miss: 4:2, dopp victory.
*You get the right dopp. 4:1. NK 3:1. Lynch AFD 1:0, town victory. v/ risky.

If you lynch someone else, though, I can kill AFD for you. Sure, I can't possibly win, but at least I can prevent the dopps from winning, which, I figure, means the taint won't spread, which is a partial victory for me, at least.
Do the right thing
Trust the crazy fanatic murder alien to kill your other crazy murderer aliens for you.

HOMICIDE WE CAN BELIEVE IN

*Returns to being dead*

[forsaken1111]

Gah
Fine, you got me. Well done, well done.
I am a Holy Knight of the Vangalan Order of the Holy Suns, come to this town to cleanse it of the doppelganger's evil touch. And that means killing everyone, yes. It's for your own good! You shall never enter the Heaven of the Suns if you are not cleansed!

By which I mean
If you lynch me now, you lose.
Observe.
There are 7 people alive, of which 2 dopps and one exterminator.
You lynch me and there are 6 people alive, of which 2 dopps
Tonight, the dopps kill a townie. 5:2
*You lynch AFD, one random townie dies. 3:1
The last dopp kills. 2:1                                           
Dopp victory.       
*You lynch the other dopp. You have to know who is it, because if you miss: 4:2, dopp victory.
*You get the right dopp. 4:1. NK 3:1. Lynch AFD 1:0, town victory. v/ risky.

If you lynch someone else, though, I can kill AFD for you. Sure, I can't possibly win, but at least I can prevent the dopps from winning, which, I figure, means the taint won't spread, which is a partial victory for me, at least.
Do the right thing
Trust the crazy fanatic murder alien to kill your other crazy murderer aliens for you.

HOMICIDE WE CAN BELIEVE IN

*Returns to being dead*

YES WE CAN!

*can't believe he used his one dead post on this*

[Alexhans]

Meph... it still says night in the title... Isn't it day 5?

[Rysith]

If you lynch someone else, though, I can kill AFD for you. Sure, I can't possibly win, but at least I can prevent the dopps from winning, which, I figure, means the taint won't spread, which is a partial victory for me, at least.
Do the right thing
Trust the crazy fanatic murder alien to kill your other crazy murderer aliens for you.

See, the issue with that is the "trust the crazy fanatic murder alien" part. I've now run what I think are all possible decision points for the rest of the game, and I'd offer the following:
Branch 2: Lynch a Townie (.5)
   3:2:1
      Branch 2.3: Exterminator kills a townie, dopps kill exterminator
         Branch 2.31: Exterminator has a shield: 2:2:1
            Branch 2.311: Lynch a dopp
               2:1:1
               ... Dopp or Exterminator victory
            Branch 2.32: Lynch Exterminator
               Branch 2.321: Deadman bomb
                  2:0:0 or 1:1:0 or 0:2:2 Victory dependant on deadman bomb

There are several branches in there (if we hit the last dopp today with the lynch, if the dopps attack you tonight), but (especially if you have the shield + bomb that I suspect you of having) you can reasonably win if we don't lynch you now.

In other words, I don't trust you to have the town's interests at heart even now, and I'd rather take my chances finding the last dopp in a few nights than have to guess right now. I can go run through all of the probabilities if people would like me to, or post the whole analysis, but it looks like our best option at this point is to either insist that A_Fey_Dwarf vote for Nuke, or insist that Nuke vote for A_Fey_Dwarf with no other votes either way.

You could demonstrate

[Rysith]

Edit by way of post:

Nuke, you could demonstrate your willingness to help the town out by going along with that plan, and I'll admit that I trust you to go along with it more than I trust AFD to.

[NUKE9.13]

Rysith, rysith, rysith.
Why won't you trust me?
I can't possibly win. NKing AFD is just a little shine on my 'most successful exterminator' trophy.

[Mephansteras]

The Whiteboard
JanusTwoface: NUKE9.13
NUKE9.13: A_Fey_Dwarf, Frelock, JanusTwoface, Rysith



Oh, yeah, I seem to have missed that step. I'll fix it to say Day 5 now.

Reminder, day ends at ~10am Pacific Wednesday

[muchenik]

The problem with trusting a killer to kill who you want is that at any moment he could turn on you.
vote nuke

[Rysith]

Well, I'm going to vote for a Day Extension. I know we've been having a lot of those recently, but I'm still waiting for a few things to resolve that I'd really like to let resolve before the end of the day.

As of right now, though, voting for Nuke remains our best option, so I'm not changing that unless the day does get extended.