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[Ampersand]

Just who is left among the major Republican politicians these days?  There are some senators and a couple governers, a few former presidential candidates and presidents, and that seems to be it.

Why, Sarah Palin of course.

[LegoLord]

That was one of those "couple of governors."

[Aqizzar]

Not anymore!  No, she quit being a governor after two years in office!  Why?  I suspect to drive me out of my mind and devote herself full time to generating nails-on-a-chalkboard Pavlovian word salads for rubes to parrot.

[ToonyMan]

She quit because it's too much stress.  You can tell by how she is.  $100 she kills someone within a year.

EDIT:  In other words, she smiles like a liar.

[ChairmanPoo]

Just who is left among the major Republican politicians these days?  There are some senators and a couple governers, a few former presidential candidates and presidents, and that seems to be it.

There is Arnold Swarchzeneger.

Of course, given that he is pro-embryo stem cell research, somewhat green, and pro-marijuana legalization, I suspect its likely that die-hard republicans will find him unappealing

[Aqizzar]

He's also not a native born American, so he can't run for President.  Cue insanty-mongering in three, two, one...

[Mr Tk]

I'll put in only this:

First: I hate the fact that media say that going to public health is socialism, and that socialism is equated to communism. Fuck then the UK and many other countries are communist states then by that logic.

Second: I live in New Zealand which has a combination of both systems. Everybody is covered under a public health system (which yes does take time get through operations), however people have the option of joining a private healthcare coverage. Note: Even if you have the private healthcare you can still get the public care as well.

You can have both systems people.


That is all....

[ChairmanPoo]

And viceversa. I think that there are countries where the hospital system is kept private but the social security foots the bill (I dont know how well it works when compared to the social security owned hospitals.)

[Vester]

Exactly. What's with socialism? Is it, what, intrinsically evil, or something?

From where I'm standing, it looks like the last few sane members of the right have left and all that remains is a lot of people scrabbling desperately for power, willing to do anything short of outright violence to keep it.

In fact I'd prefer that they were simply evil, because if they actually believe what they're saying... well, there's a big problem.

That's just my 2 centavos. Despite my being halfway around the world, the healthcare debate seems silly. There shouldn't be a debate at all.

(Huh. Where will he get the money, though?)

[Ampersand]

If he were to take all the money that goes to other healthcare programs and combine it into a single public option, then the additional costs may be relatively low. Taxes on highest percent incomes in the country may have to be raised to cover it entirely.

[LegoLord]

Of course, with public healthcare people won't be spending as much to stay (relatively) healthy.  And taxes have already been raised a bit in the U.S., haven't they?  So public health care would make up for that to an extent.

[ChairmanPoo]

that's the idea, I think

[Cthulhu]

Meh, I haven't been paying much attention to it.  The only significant thing I remember reading on it was some article on Newsweek with a conservative and a liberal politician giving their views.  From what I remember, the Conservative gave a much more cogent and well-thought-out response, the Liberal's was mostly emotional appeal.

As Cthulhu, your human emotions mean nothing to me.

[Jude]

The current American system is a complete disaster. Something more similar to, say, what they have in Canada, would not be perfect and have plenty of problems, but I'd rather have people waiting longer and some people not having access to some non-life-saving procedures, than have massive numbers of the poorest people in the country have NO way to get health care at all.

[Sensei]

Exactly. What's with socialism? Is it, what, intrinsically evil, or something?

Nothing is intrinsically wrong with socialism. Some people do equate it to communism, which would be fine  usually devolves into dictatorship (or at least that's the popular opinion).

At any rate, to them the idea of anything based on a socialist model in America is like restricting racism on 4chan. It's a matter of principle, and they just want a country to exist in which there are no such systems.