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LegoLord

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Re: This American Health Debate thing
« Reply #135 on: August 19, 2009, 04:36:00 pm »

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Sometimes I really think my country is going downhill fast.  Days when I hear people talking like Taniec and eerr are in this thread are such days.

Right, so this isn't an insult?
It wasn't, because it was more of a complaint of the general negative attitude than of you in particular.

I will say one last thing:  Health care is one of the biggest worries for Americans, next to the economy.  Funny thing though, a strong economy doesn't do much good if for example a middle-class American has an accident that costs what is for him an unholy amount of money that even with his insurance will have him bankrupt.  In fact, that will weaken the economy due to how harmful debts are to the ability to buy things of those who can't pay them.  Health care is among the top worries of the lower-than-upper-class citizens, and frankly having a good universal safety net -- or even just a universal safety net -- established ASAP is important.  It is not like any provisions that people worry might backfire can't be edited later -- something much easier (by way of being less controversial) than putting through an entirely new bill.  In short, how long will it take to get a good public health care plan through if this one doesn't pass?  Too long.

Now on the more current train,  U.S. is pretty much commie proof.  Of course, we fear it more than the devil himself, so that should be taken for granted.  Communism is pretty much unconstitutional. And if a law does slip on the slope . . . bangavel from the supreme court.  It's like a forum that way.  They'd need to do an overthrow to get America, and people seem less willing to do that here in the west these days. 
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Re: This American Health Debate thing
« Reply #136 on: August 19, 2009, 09:08:15 pm »

Second part of my healthcare plan involves deaf panels. People commonly get confused.
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Re: This American Health Debate thing
« Reply #137 on: August 20, 2009, 05:41:33 am »

The tax rate in the UK is roughly 20% for people earning under £40k, and then it hits a whopping 40% for every pound you earn over that. Which is fairly nice, so people who earn morn pay more for us people who are working for them :D

Anyhoo, I'd like to apologise to Taniec about bringing his family into this, I was fairly angry that he was completely knocking our NHS, which on multiple times, has saved me and my family members from certain pain/death. So you can understand why I got personal.

Again, sorry man.

But onto more constructive arguements. Why did that American talk show host... the guy who cries alot, acctually interview the party who is opposed to the NHS (at least deep down anyway) for the British take of national health systems? Don't you guys in america ever have any completely unbiased arguements? Or is it always the right wing that just starts a massive slagging match. Case and point i guess is this health debate.
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« Reply #138 on: August 20, 2009, 06:00:31 am »

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Don't you guys in america ever have any completely unbiased arguements? Or is it always the right wing that just starts a massive slagging match

To quote a television show who may have been quoting someone else.

"Love us, hate us, our true enemy is apathy"
-It wasn't Apathy but I cannot remember the word they used.

News is a buisness.
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« Reply #139 on: August 20, 2009, 11:55:18 am »

News is a business, but sensationalism bullshit is a much bigger and more lucrative business. That's why NPR (news for intelligent people) has less of an audience than Fox News or Rush Limbaugh (sensationalist bullshit for the willfully ignorant)
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Re: This American Health Debate thing
« Reply #140 on: August 20, 2009, 04:17:52 pm »

Oh yeah, Rush Limbaugh's impersonation of Michael J. Fox is epic.
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« Reply #141 on: August 20, 2009, 05:29:00 pm »

Rush Limbaugh is a great entertainer! Him and stephen colbert parody republican's with a great sense of style.
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« Reply #142 on: August 20, 2009, 06:46:29 pm »

We once spoke of Rush Limbaugh in my Law Ed class last semester (the teacher let us get talk during notes, as long as we wrote).  One guy said, despite his flaws, "He's got jokes, man."

I responded:  "No, Rush Limbaugh doesn't have jokes.  He is a joke."  Que laughter from the class and various "ooh, burn!"'s.

And this is in South Carolina.
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"Oh look there is a dragon my clothes might burn let me take them off and only wear steel plate."
And this is how tinned food was invented.
Alternately: The Brick Testament. It's a really fun look at what the bible would look like if interpreted literally. With Legos.
Just so I remember
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