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[abcd_z]

Taken from a different thread:

To be honest, I would rather have Dwarves with relationships that are more morphic than cast in stone FOR ETERNITY before any other kind of fix to the romantic side of the system. Give me a romantic interest that causes minor drama instead of a marriage. Give me a dwarf who starts falling in love with someone other than their partner and has to figure out what to do about it. Give me a marriage that is great at first but turns into something else down the road that forces them to choose whether they stay together or not. Give me a marriage that starts out completely political, but turns into true love down the road. Give me a bunch of dwarves having a conversation about the love-lives of the rich and powerful in their community. Give me a scenario that would never happen in the real world simply because that sort of culture isn't present.

In short, let's get relationships simulated to the Dwarf Fortress standard.

This.  A thousand times over, this.

[Jackrabbit]

Indeed. Welcome to the forum by the way. Things are hilarious here. Also, we reply DAMN FAST.

[Pilsu]

Could use some way of managing the consequences of infidelity. Dwarves randomly killing each other would probably get frustrating

[Grendus]

While I think the romance aspect could use some tuning, and the occasional marriage drama would be fine, it should be rare. I don't want to have to deal with cheatin' dwarves all the time, if this was implemented dwarves should mostly take care of it themselves and it should be rarer than moods.

Remember, up until recent times divorce was a cause of great shame. I don't want dwarf tabloids, just slightly more realistic relationships.

[Granite26]

Remember, up until recent times divorce was a cause of great shame.

Yeah, but there was more focus on not getting CAUGHT sleeping around than there was not sleeping around in the first place

[mickel]

Remember, up until recent times divorce was a cause of great shame.

Yeah, but there was more focus on not getting CAUGHT sleeping around than there was not sleeping around in the first place

Well, depending on the culture. Divorce was cause of great shame in western culture. Still is in many parts of it.

Anyway...

Given that dwarfs are getting more detailed personalities, it makes sense that some of them would be less faithful than others. As for how to deal with it, I guess that's up to their personalities too. They could throw a hissy fit and break things, or slip into a depression, or create a work of art or something. Or rip the infidel's arms off and bludgeon him or her to death with them, of course.

[madjoe5]

I agree that relationships should be more than just: Friend, Acquaintance, Lover, Mother/Father and Deity. Dynamic relationships would both be a great addition to the fortress and add epic entries to the Legends as well (like cheating kings being killed by queens).

What I would also like to see is a few [ENTITY:ETHICS...] tags regarding relationships. For example: cheating, multiple spouses, divorce, etc. I would like to see a difference from race to race and see, for example, a goblin higher-up with a couple wives and elves who capitally punish cheaters and humans who have shotgun weddings that often lead to divorce.

[Granite26]

Remember, up until recent times divorce was a cause of great shame.

Yeah, but there was more focus on not getting CAUGHT sleeping around than there was not sleeping around in the first place

Well, depending on the culture. Divorce was cause of great shame in western culture. Still is in many parts of it.

Right, but sleeping around wasn't the issue, it was it being KNOWN that your partner was sleeping around

[Areyar]

well dwarves reproduce via spores, how they manage to prevent inadvertant pregnancies is a mystery to me though.
I'd rather see improvement of the physikal simulation of love/procreation first, but variation in emotion levels is a good idea.

[Rowanas]

Cheating should be an entity ethic for certain, but any dwarf found cheating will be killed under mysterious circumstances by the spirit of the fort (me). It's strange how only cheaters pull the lever marked "Magma reroute". The other things also seem very cool, I'd like to have my dwarves getting happy or sad thoughts. Also, gay/lesbian/bisexual dwarves, anyone? I want a bisexual dwarf fortress.

[Tenebrais]

I want a bisexual dwarf fortress.

You'd need a hell of a culling to get just those.

I would love to see relationships get more detail, in all respects. I, too, would like to see ethics relating to them in the raws, so you could have strictly monogamous dwarves and free-love elves. It would also allow me to better flesh out my modded-in Nymph race...
Hmm. What would dwarves' attitude toward homosexuality be? Dwarves seem quite conservative in general, but they are also all pretty masculine...

[MrWiggles]

If the dorf are going to commit murder, then it would be cool, if the guards could investigate the crime. Watch them speak with their friends of the deceased and question the S/O so forth.


CSI: BOATMURDER

[abcd_z]

I want some female dwarves who cause drama just for the hell of it.
Or some female dwarves who are only interested in the richest/highest status male dwarf they can find.
I want to see the concept of monogamy programmed, and I want to see dwarves who can cheat on their spouse.
I want to see a dwarf that sleeps around but has no intention of commitment.
I want to see dwarves procreate for fun, with the possibility of pregnancy.

Well, not "see", but you know what I mean.  An oblique reference would be enough.

I want to see a dwarf heartbroken because he or she lost his significant other through death, infidelity, or divorce.  Not because I want to inflict pain on imaginary characters in a virtual reality, but because anything less would not be up to the Dwarf Fortress standard.

Also, the original poster to this thread is a totally awesome person and you should all sig him.   

[MrWiggles]

I want to see a dwarf heartbroken because he or she lost his significant other through death...

This already happens.

[abcd_z]

Ah, so it does.

The rest of my post stands, though.