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[Jonathan S. Fox]

Serious question: Is it fun to get all those sleepers, or just a grind?

[Capital Fish]

I enjoy getting sleepers. I just wish the recruiting limit was increased.  It seems weird that my ultra-charismatic founder with maxed-out leadership skills can only have 25 sleepers under his command.  If the LCS is popular enough, and my founder has high enough heart/skills, I think the recruiting should be vastly increased, or even done away with completely.

Edit: Perhaps, if it wouldn't be a complete pain in the ass to program, the recruitment caps for active followers and sleepers could be seperated? I would imagine it's a lot easier to tell people to advocate liberalism to their friends and co-workers than it is to tell them to pick up a gun and storm the court house.

[Think0028]

Re: sleeper armies, when I'm building a sleeper army, I'm doing it not to build a sleeper group or a sleeper platoon, I'm doing it to build a sleeper army. I never had problems with the recruitment cap, I always did it the old-fashioned way with interrogation. And I don't think sleepers should have a second recruitment cap, because they can still recruit more people if they're not brainwashed, and it would cause problems possibly with recalling sleepers.

[Jonathan S. Fox]

The programming would actually be pretty trivial to exclude sleepers from recruit caps, but I think I tend to lean toward what Think0028 said about the sleeper cap; and it's a good point that you can recall sleepers, but that could be disabled if the boss's recruitment quota is full.

It used to be that you HAD to brainwash people to get sleepers, and now you get to use seduction or issues to get them, but they have half the infiltration level. I don't remember if it's in the current release or not, but one thing that's definitely on the slate is to have infiltration level be stuck, so you can't push it up or down. I might also replace it with a percentage and have the effect of infiltration be that the percent infiltration is the chance that any given sleeper action succeeds. Low risk sleeper actions would just have low or no consequences for failure, while high risk actions would compromise the sleeper or harm them in some way.

[Leafsnail]

I quite enjoyed it, in a way.  The psycology skill didn't really take all that long to train up to max.  I brainwashed them all, since there's no limit on the number of brainwashes you can do.  I would support a move to a game where tactically placed sleepers rather than an indiscriminate army of sleepers is required, which may be achieved when having political sleepers comes into effect.

[Zangi]

Psychology raises very very fast with the main interrogator.  Anyone else you send in addition, are slow as molasses.  But thats fine.

[Leafsnail]

Psychology raises very very fast with the main interrogator.  Anyone else you send in addition, are slow as molasses.  But thats fine.

Yep, after 2 janitors my previously skill less interrogator had 3.5 ish psycology.  It doesn't take too long.

[Nicpon]

How to make people think that  political violence is justified?

In my game,
<>  100% people respect LCS
<>  98% of these held me in high regard (whatever effect this has on game)
<> 0% people thought political violence is justified.

I find this strange.
it is CRIMINAL squad.

[Servant Corps]

How to make people think that  political violence is justified?

In my game,
<>  100% people respect LCS
<>  98% of these held me in high regard (whatever effect this has on game)
<> 0% people thought political violence is justified.

I find this strange.
it is CRIMINAL squad.

If they respect the LCS and hold you in high regard, it makes all issues more Liberal. It's sorta like how AM Radio/Cable News make society more conservative. People love the LCS, they adopt its radical positions.

You need to attack sites in order to build up society's tolerance to violence, but because everyone is against political violence, it might harm your popularity. Best to just let the status quo prevail.

EDIT: Except, um, er, you can't. It seems that, according to the code, LAW_FLAGBURNING is based on Free Speech AND Political Violence, so you have to bring political violence more liberal...

[Leafsnail]

The CCS, and my subsequence response to them, got my political violence tolerance up rather a lot.

[Megaman]

I can imagine though once the CCS is abolished you will have a hard time keeping up the political violence.

[Leafsnail]

I didn't bother.  Just surrendered my violent squad to the police, as I didn't need them anymore.  I should point out this was actually pre version 4.

[Zombie0hour]

Great advice for a new LCS player, thanks mate! 

[Rilder]

Just discovered that each liberal can spray paint up to 50 juice which allows them to recruit 1 person and they also can get a lover so you can sort of daisy chain them, my founder got sent to prison for 3 years so I spent those years doing that and now have 7 guys at the safe house doing legal stuff and making money and 7 sleepers to deal with future arrests.