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[Armok]

quote:Originally posted by Sean Mirrsen:
<STRONG>Legendary haulers taken by mood would make... what? Wheelbarrows? Ah, no, no!!! They will make LEAD FLOODGATES!!! And lug them around for 5 years. With one hand. If proper combat is done at some point, I would NOT want to be an ettin attacking one of those...</STRONG>

*Imagines that ruined Disney version of Hercules armwrestling that hauler...*
"Urist badass, Hauler cancels armwrestle, opponent lost or misplaced"  

[guspav]

a hauling skill sounds reasonable, also how about building carts out of wood to make hauling more efficient?

[Sean Mirrsen]

Armok, I wasn't meaning armwrestling, I was rather implying floodgate-swinging.

Wow, I invented a dwarven sport.  

[Earthquake Damage]

quote:Legendary lifter

Bah!  Legendary Inventory Manager sounds better.  

[Capntastic]

Yeah, it really should just train strength and speed.    There's nothing more to hauling stuff then that.    It'd be like asking for a walking skill or a breathing skill.

[Draco18s]

quote:Originally posted by Capntastic:
<STRONG>Yeah, it really should just train strength and speed.    There's nothing more to hauling stuff then that.    It'd be like asking for a walking skill or a breathing skill.</STRONG>

Urmot Grathenkorg cancels breathing: too much water.
Urmot Grathenkorg has drowned.

[Armok]

*imagines some of all those new psychological breathing technices*
*imagine soldiers marching in perfect unisone*

We need walking and breathing skills!  

[Stij]

quote:Originally posted by guspav:
<STRONG>a hauling skill sounds reasonable, also how about building carts out of wood to make hauling more efficient?</STRONG>

I think minecarts are coming at some point.

[Seryntas]

Sidenote: Legendary Teamster would probably be a better label, as much as I do agree with Capntastic.

[Nekojin]

quote:Originally posted by Sean Mirrsen:
<STRONG>Armok, I wasn't meaning armwrestling, I was rather implying floodgate-swinging.

Wow, I invented a dwarven sport.   </STRONG>

At my current fortress, my Leader practices Zombie Camel Polo. He's the only person playing the game right now, but he's sure it'll catch on any day now.

[Citizen of Erl]

Capntastic really doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to moving things having no skill.

That being said, would there would be a significant benefit with such a skill until multiple item hauling is added? It really wouldn't let one go faster than walking speed, and really the slowdown tends not to be that much. Strength and Speed training for it would be nice, though.

[Armok]

From now on, before claiming that hauling requires no skill, the claimer MUST haul ALL of their furniture in and out of their house at least 10 times, if the building has many stairs (8+ floors) 5 times might do. Then lets see if you have gained no skill from it.

[qalnor]

Well, I don't think it's fair to say that there is no skill involved in moving objects around, because there certainly is. That having been said, the distance between being a novice and being a master of hauling is not the same as the distance between being a novice in more skilled fields and being a master in them.

That being said, I don't think anything just 'builds' a stat without reference to skill increases, and I see no compelling reason why not to make this a skill if things like 'pump operator' are going to be skills.

[Lightning4]

A hauling skill, if ever implemented, would probably best cover the ability to haul multiple items at the same time. Especially heavy ones. A novice hauler could only lug one heavy object like a hunk of ore or a door or something, but could carry a few crafts. A legendary hauler could probably haul three hunks of the heaviest ore available.

But I have to agree, it doesn't seem all that necessary. It'd just be a really easy to train skill to stat-boost your dwarves.

If anything, strength should act as a hauling skill, making the dwarf able to haul multiple items with better efficiency.

[ November 19, 2007: Message edited by: Lightning4 ]

[jellyman]

Maybe hauling skill could be capped at something like proficient or competent.