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Chutney

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Re: Elven tree spikers
« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2009, 06:24:11 pm »

Of course, any sort of actual tree spiking (even with magical spikes that blow up the tree or something) would harm the tree. What tree-humping elf would harm a tree?

Okay, then again, human extremists can justify any degree of collateral damage to themselves so I guess elf extremists could too.

They can use their wood-bending the apparently do to make weapons to sort of merge a spike with the tree harmlessly. For the explosion they could make an outer layer of magically hardened/sharpened bark shoot off, which wouldn't really harm the tree.
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Ghoulz

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« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2009, 09:27:12 pm »

There is no magic in this game! Only demons, elves, and fey spirits!

Wait..
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« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2009, 12:47:27 am »

Don't forget zombies and skeletons.
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Granite26

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« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2009, 07:19:03 am »

Of course, any sort of actual tree spiking (even with magical spikes that blow up the tree or something) would harm the tree. What tree-humping elf would harm a tree?

Okay, then again, human extremists can justify any degree of collateral damage to themselves so I guess elf extremists could too.

They can use their wood-bending the apparently do to make weapons to sort of merge a spike with the tree harmlessly. For the explosion they could make an outer layer of magically hardened/sharpened bark shoot off, which wouldn't really harm the tree.

I think the philosophy is 'Once the guy with the axe shows up, the tree is toast, so why not make the trees sacrifice worth something, by breaking the axe (or with actual tree spikes,occasionally killing the lumberjack).

What about something that makes the wood useless when the tree is cut down?  That's extremely passive-aggressive-elven.

Grendus

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« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2009, 09:56:20 am »

The elves arrive and leave a gift of beard mites in the tree. There's no way to get rid of them short of shaving your beard and scrubbing your chin with lye.

OH THE HORROR!
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Richards

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« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2009, 10:47:10 am »

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Granite26

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« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2009, 10:54:08 am »

The elves arrive and leave a gift of beard mites in the tree. There's no way to get rid of them short of shaving your beard and scrubbing your chin with lye.

OH THE HORROR!

Actually, that's cool... especially expanding it

Silverionmox

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Re: Elven tree spikers
« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2009, 12:13:36 pm »

Trees don't explode. They just don't.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploding_tree
I stand corrected! Though it should be noted that two cases are triggered with fire and lightning, and the third is a non-fiery explosion. But bursting fruits, suspiciously well-timed falling coconuts and the like, please do.
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Granite26

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Re: Elven tree spikers
« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2009, 12:25:11 pm »

A lot of wood is used to burn for ashes, charcoal or fuel, right?  I mean, I don't think elves should get upset at the trees you need for beds, or a few bows or whatever.  Elves get pissed when you level forests for steel production, because that's what levels whole forests.

If the dead trees that are problematic are burned, why not treat them such that they explode WHEN BURNT...

Special fertilizer that makes trees go boom?  A+

Pilsu

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Re: Elven tree spikers
« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2009, 12:46:53 pm »

How do you defend against any of this? Why do only elves have access to this stuff?
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Granite26

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« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2009, 12:50:44 pm »

How do you defend against any of this? Why do only elves have access to this stuff?

Oh no, from a gameplay perspective this shit is horrid... It's still fun to talk about though...

Silverionmox

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« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2009, 01:27:46 pm »

Why do only elves have access to this stuff?
Hehe.. because real dwarves don't want anything to do with elvish treehugging shit? :p
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Rowanas

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Re: Elven tree spikers
« Reply #42 on: August 11, 2009, 01:35:37 pm »

Yeah, but I've yet to see the dwarf who refuses to participate in an explosion.

Technically I've yet to see a dwarf, full stop...
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Re: Elven tree spikers
« Reply #43 on: August 11, 2009, 05:33:30 pm »

I'm moderately short, bearded, gruff, lovably insane, have an axe (And a bunch of swords), own my own homemade scalemail (For butchery), and I hate Elves.  Get me a horned helmet and you can say you saw a Dwarf all you like.
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Michael

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« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2009, 09:19:12 pm »

How do you defend against any of this?
Two ways.  First, you can accept the treaty and stay within the limit the elves set.

Second, you can build walls and moats such so that there is no path from the map edge to the trees you want to use -- except by passing the gauntlet you've already set to keep out the kobolds.  Then the spikers can't reach any tree you care about.
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