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[Patarak]

Slashing instakills are effectively the same as lopping offs. Now, I know this is probably supposed to be this way, I'm not sure of a "solution", and I'm not even sure if it's a problem, but it kind of rubs me the wrong way. What do you people think?

[gurra_geban]

its just how it is... WoW is a good game if you dont want any chance of skill involved in your gaming, only how many hour you spend each day ^^

not saying anything about you, just stating DF as the direct opposite of WoW, the shittiest game ever made

[Puzzlemaker]

Um... huh?

What's this about WoW?

...Anyway...

Slashing instakills can get annoying, because every single organ you have goes BLEH.

I think the real problem is that armor doesn't lower the critical hit chance of weapons enough, especially higher level armor.

[Patarak]

Are we talking about the same thing? Just to be sure, we're talking about, its the slashing equivalent of upper bodies exploding into gore and the like.

[gurra_geban]

yupp, the same issue ^^
i think its cool that any creature, with a certain amount of luck, can kill any other creature.
the only thing stupid is when a deer charges at a bronze collosus and it dodges the charge by jumping of a cliff

[BurnedToast]

quote:Originally posted by Puzzlemaker:
<STRONG>
I think the real problem is that armor doesn't lower the critical hit chance of weapons enough, especially higher level armor.</STRONG>

You're right on this, this combined with the high rate of fire is the reason archery is so overpowered - arrows/bolts have a 2 crit modifier which is the same as a spear.

I expect it will all get balanced out at some point, if not in the army arc then in some later combat related arc.

[Cajoes]

quote:Originally posted by gurra_geban:
<STRONG>its just how it is... WoW is a good game if you dont want any chance of skill involved in your gaming, only how many hour you spend each day ^^

not saying anything about you, just stating DF as the direct opposite of WoW, the shittiest game ever made</STRONG>

Thread no hijacky. Naughty naughty dorf.

[Capntastic]

Combat isn't particularly balanced right now.  Bear in mind the game's in alpha, and it'll be overhauled completely one of these days.

[Align]

But changing a few numbers shouldn't take more than a minute.

[Hague]

Well, if ammo was given the [CRIT_BOOST:x] token it would be easy to change arrows and bolts to be less deadly.

[Patarak]

Ah, no my friends, you missunderstand me.

When I slash at my foes upper body, it occasionally becomes cloven asunder.

It also occassionally gets lopped of. What's the difference? Bugger if I know.

So this is more of an aesthetic thing than anything else.  

[Fenrir]

quote:Originally posted by Patarak:
<STRONG>Ah, no my friends, you missunderstand me.

When I slash at my foes upper body, it occasionally becomes cloven asunder.

It also occassionally gets lopped of. What's the difference? Bugger if I know.

So this is more of an aesthetic thing than anything else.   </STRONG>

You weren't very clear on this.

[Jreengus]

Isnt cloven asunder you strike in more a diaganol/vertical direction whereas lopped off means you cut them straight across the waist

[Sean Mirrsen]

"Cloven asunder" means the body part received critical damage and is destroyed. A part is "lopped off" when it receives over-critical damage. Only specific bodyparts have the "critical damage" phase, most usually move straight to over-critical and fly off. Of course, this implies slashing or gore damage. Bludgeon, pierce, heat, and cold don't sever limbs or bodyparts, except in very rare cases, or for non-flesh creatures.

And an upper body cannot fly off, ever, at least in a common creature setup, because it is the root of the creature's body, the base parent part. I've been trying out alternative body designs, but with no luck so far.