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« Reply #555 on: September 04, 2009, 12:38:20 am »

Speaking of which, you're using Dig Deeper, right? Has he fought any orcs yet?
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« Reply #556 on: September 04, 2009, 12:47:06 am »

I KNOW THE HAMMER LOOKS LIKE A SPEAR IT'S BEEN SAID BEFORE
let's just say it's some sort of hammer shaped and designed to be used by elves.

also Shima, if you can carve something in stone that looks better than that I will eat my paint set.

You do realize that a hammer that does piercing damage would be the bane of everything alive, especially in the hands of Cacame. Imagine that thing twisting in a wound. Yikes.
Well, I don't think there's a terribly great deal of difference between a war hammer and a pick besides how sharp you get them and balance-a war hammer is supposed to ha'e a pretty small contact area e'en if it's not pointy. Could probably make the head ha'e a sharp and an unsharp end.

...Though, the way that's drawn, it looks like it does slashing damage- would need a pretty awkward swing OR one with the side of the hammer to really get a face to connect with someone.

Not that it's bad-looking. Your art is *art*, Fault.
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Re: Dwarven king is an...
« Reply #557 on: September 04, 2009, 12:49:20 am »

I KNOW THE HAMMER LOOKS LIKE A SPEAR IT'S BEEN SAID BEFORE
let's just say it's some sort of hammer shaped and designed to be used by elves.

also Shima, if you can carve something in stone that looks better than that I will eat my paint set.

You do realize that a hammer that does piercing damage would be the bane of everything alive, especially in the hands of Cacame. Imagine that thing twisting in a wound. Yikes.
Well, I don't think there's a terribly great deal of difference between a war hammer and a pick besides how sharp you get them and balance-a war hammer is supposed to ha'e a pretty small contact area e'en if it's not pointy. Could probably make the head ha'e a sharp and an unsharp end.

...Though, the way that's drawn, it looks like it does slashing damage- would need a pretty awkward swing OR one with the side of the hammer to really get a face to connect with someone.

Not that it's bad-looking. Your art is *art*, Fault.

You mean like a claw hammer?

Now I remember what your hammer reminds me of. You know the Roman Legions' Eagle? That's it. It looks like one of those huge, badass, winged statues that they carry atop the banner. Killing someone with one of those would be killing them with all the power and glory of Rome.

Or in this case, Cacame.
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« Reply #558 on: September 04, 2009, 12:54:10 am »

yeah, that picture was kinda meant to make cacame look awesome, not practical.
I've noticed that each time I draw his hammer the sharp bit on the end gets longer and more prominent.

Maybe I should draw cacame smashing something, just for good measure.

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« Reply #559 on: September 04, 2009, 01:32:24 am »

Speaking of which, you're using Dig Deeper, right? Has he fought any orcs yet?

I modded out orcs. I never liked the concept of orcs AND goblins existing together. They are, to me, essentially the same creature given two different names. I replaced what they are conceptually in Dig Deeper (nameless creatures who attack incessantly) with the gibberlings, though the gibberlings are smaller and faster.

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« Reply #560 on: September 04, 2009, 01:43:49 am »

wonders if a beserking cacame can kill 40 well armed dwarves like egngun....

*Imagines cacame beserking* "Oh no the apocalyse has come...!"
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« Reply #561 on: September 04, 2009, 01:46:38 am »

Actually, if we're going into distinctions, what Cacame there seems to be wielding is a maul (Which are in DF; mauls are effectively just wartime sledgehammers).  Mauls have been noted to sometimes be equipped with sharp, armor piercing spikes (The idea was, the hammer would force it to pierce any armor, thus making it, effectively, a short-range spear).
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A warhammer would be more like this.
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HOWEVER, Cacame, being epic as he is, can probably bend the space/time fabric in order to make his hammer whatever he wants it to be.
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« Reply #562 on: September 04, 2009, 01:54:49 am »

I honestly always picture a "war hammer" as being a "big ass hammer". The proper war hammer is actually what I think of when someone says "war pick" or "horseman's pick".

I think big ass hammers are more dwarfy.

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« Reply #563 on: September 04, 2009, 01:55:49 am »

I modded out orcs

Let's just say that at some point in history cacame drove all the orcs in your world to extinction.
and no one ever spoke of them again.

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« Reply #564 on: September 04, 2009, 01:57:37 am »

I honestly always picture a "war hammer" as being a "big ass hammer". The proper war hammer is actually what I think of when someone says "war pick" or "horseman's pick".

I think big ass hammers are more dwarfy.

Well, to be fair, a warhammer would be a little large for a Dwarf.

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« Reply #565 on: September 04, 2009, 02:09:55 am »

Anyways, forgetting the war hammer talk for the moment, here's the first part of that story I mentioned a day or two ago.

Cacame's Quest (Part 1)

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« Reply #566 on: September 04, 2009, 03:52:51 am »

Speaking of which, you're using Dig Deeper, right? Has he fought any orcs yet?

I modded out orcs. I never liked the concept of orcs AND goblins existing together. They are, to me, essentially the same creature given two different names. I replaced what they are conceptually in Dig Deeper (nameless creatures who attack incessantly) with the gibberlings, though the gibberlings are smaller and faster.

I think Rysith based his orcs off of Warhammer (more likely Warcraft) Orcs, given their huge size, rather than Tolkien "corrupted elf" orcs.

I'm thinking of giving the humans two entity entries, actually, so that I can have culturally distinct humans. It weirds me out a bit that all the humans in the game world have the same ethos and technology levels, considering how in most fantasy settings humans are the most fickle among the races. (Of course - this is DF.)
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« Reply #567 on: September 04, 2009, 04:01:10 am »

Yeah, Rysith's Orcs are big warlike greenskins, larger and stronger than humans, but not as large and strong as Ogres.

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« Reply #568 on: September 04, 2009, 03:07:14 pm »

Too many greenskinned bastards, not enough Cacame.
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« Reply #569 on: September 04, 2009, 03:11:04 pm »

I always imagined warhammers in DF as being Mauls (see Elder Scrolls for my confused interpretation). If I'm correct though, you can only hold one, so it makes sense- maybe in DF, a warhammer is meat-tenderizer-shape-free, as opposed to a maul which is a hammer with a spike on the end?
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