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[Jackrabbit]

No, this isn't a topic about that, seriously. I'm just interested, actually. I'd quite like to know how banning works. Yes, I'm that dumb. But I was think, couldn't a ban just be dodged by creating another account on another email? And I've heard that banning IP prevents that, but how does that work?

[Luckk]

I think the IP is what your computer uses to connect to the internet from either your house or computer.  So if you ban it, it won't allow anything from said house or computer.  Note, I really don't know if I am right by guesstimating what I just wrote above.  But even then, there are still ways to get around such a thing as an IP ban.

[Armok]

If this topic is out of anything other than curiosity, pm me on the new VN.

Edit: wait, I should have said that in a PM, oups?
((semi-joke post. ))

[Phantom]

A laptop or whatever that thing is in the Mah case thread would dodge bans

[Jackrabbit]

If this topic is out of anything other than curiosity, pm me on the new VN.

Mere curiosity.

[sonerohi]

I'm pretty sure nothing prevents you from making a new account, but then, I don't want to have to find out.

[Jackrabbit]

Too true.

[Aqizzar]

I was wondering that myself.  Does banning an IP mean you just can't make an account, or can that IP not even view the forum at all?

[IndonesiaWarMinister]

I was wondering that myself.  Does banning an IP mean you just can't make an account, or can that IP not even view the forum at all?

If I am right, then.

I'd say Can't view. the latter.

[Muz]

Heh, I've moderated quite a lot of stuff in the past few years.. what I've learned is that banning an account is the most annoying type. They have to come back with a different account... one that nobody knows, so there's not much point to causing trouble, when nobody knows that it's you. It's the most effective type, because banning an account requires only one click. Creating an account is a lot more annoying, especially on forums with captchas.

Banning IPs is like killing a zombie. They'll keep coming back and you just keep shooting them when they do. Forums like these go a bit further and ban an email address. If you want to create a fake account to get revenge.. you have to create a fake email, create a fake account, and just as soon as you start trouble, people will start reporting you.. then BLAM! Like real zombies, there's only so many times they'd get back up again.

[Antioch]

well there are lots of ways to bann someone, including rather clever ones.

There are forums that correlate login times and post counts to a specific user, so that you can suspect that it is the same person. Many people also use the same password for their alt account.
more advanced stuff can even detect certain writing styles, but that is going a bit far for normal forum moderation

[Leafsnail]

The Hard Drive Taint Banhammer may or may not be used on this forum.  If it's a temp ban, it should be enough to just disable the account.  If the user comes back with a new account, you may need to IP ban them.  If they use proxies and come back, then you usually delete accounts and ban emails.  Deleting account and any posts they may - 2 minutes.  Creating new email, new account and logging in via proxy - 10 minutes.  They get bored before you do.

[This is to some extent second hand, as I'm only a Mod on another forum, and Mods don't get banhammers.]

If they continue to spam and flame massively, there is the Hard Drive Banhammer of death, but it's used pretty rarely.

[Jude]

Heh, I've moderated quite a lot of stuff in the past few years.. what I've learned is that banning an account is the most annoying type. They have to come back with a different account... one that nobody knows, so there's not much point to causing trouble, when nobody knows that it's you. It's the most effective type, because banning an account requires only one click. Creating an account is a lot more annoying, especially on forums with captchas.

There's one forum I go to where everybody that gets banned regularly has like four or five regular accounts that everyone knows who they are, and whenever they get banned they just use a different account until the ban's up. The mods don't even care.

[ChairmanPoo]

If they continue to spam and flame massively, there is the Hard Drive Banhammer of death, but it's used pretty rarely.

dont think there's such animal.

[Virex]

A quick search on google leads me to believe it does exist and uses the serial number of your HD, but it's based upong fragmentaric evidence. Wouldn't be surprised if they could do it though, since it's impossible to change the serial number of a piece of hardware without outright replacing it or toroughly messing with your BIOS. And that's a bit much to avoid a ban.