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[Sergarr]

I don't quite understand how does Terezi/Dave "go back in time and do over" fraymotif works. It looks like it contradicts literally everything that was said before, on time travel not being able to actually change things and being just another part of the "self-fulfilling clusterfuck".

I thought that only John was able to actually change things, with his retcon power? Or did we, at some point, enter the Twilight Zone of not-actually-canon-ness (Which would actually explain why Cans power has randomly changed from "punching people in time" to "punching people in space")?

[Bauglir]

Could be that it's still timeline-changing clusterfuckery like always, with Dirk-got-shot being a doomed one.

[javierpwn]

I don't quite understand how does Terezi/Dave "go back in time and do over" fraymotif works. It looks like it contradicts literally everything that was said before, on time travel not being able to actually change things and being just another part of the "self-fulfilling clusterfuck".

I thought that only John was able to actually change things, with his retcon power? Or did we, at some point, enter the Twilight Zone of not-actually-canon-ness (Which would actually explain why Cans power has randomly changed from "punching people in time" to "punching people in space")?

Terezi can see the various timelines with her mind powers. Dave is the Knight of Time. What appears to be happening with the first Fraymotif that they do together, is that Terezi is surveying optimal timelines, keeping them in her mind,and Dave is collapsing them together; which brings 3 Dirks together to form one, and a Spades Slick with two versions of his Gun/Scepter in two hands.
While the second Fraymotif seems to be Terezi surveying the timelines once more, Dave sending them back to the point where Jack was about to hit Slick, and Terezi and Dave using a combination of their powers to make them assume the minds of their past selves, with the knowledge of what's about to happen; giving them a surprise attack on BOTH Slick and Jack.

[Putnam]

Update.

[Sergarr]

I did not expect that.

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What the fuck, everything is going too well, it can't be happening, not in fucking Homestuck, and not after that ominous cutout to black-and-white!

There's going to be some kind of shitty turnaround, there must be!

Also, now there's only 35 pages + the final update left to finally resolve the story!!!

EDIT:

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You know, I've seen people that have said that Homestuck has been getting more and more anime as of lately... and we know that Caliborn have been trying his hand at drawing manga... and also, he (theoretically) still has access to the Homestuck cartridge itself, plus, as of the Collide, the Weapon, too...

[Elephant Parade]

A link for the lazy, though you really shouldn't have scrolled down this far.

[Darkmere]

The style is because guest artists. The catch-up on the Vriska timeline we're in was also the same because the same person/people contributed to it.

I'm cautiously optimistic that this is an actual victory for now. We're really close to the end and I don't think all this would lead to the characters actually losing everything. Plus there's the soultrap still to come into play somehow.

[Trapezohedron]

Eyup. That's why no one can die right now... for now.

If anyone's going to pull a sacrificial stunt (that sticks) though, I expect it to be Dirk. Kind of a bummer though how el beheado was just resurrected by plopping both parts of his body together.

Though really, I've been thinking that the Maid of Life class is quite goddamned OP. Seeing that Dirk could have died a heroic death over there (though the idea is glossed over due to people guessing it wouldn't stick), and seemingly nonchalantly being resurrected by someone else in healthy condition, if the Maid stays alive, then nobody dies, ever.

[Elephant Parade]

Eyup. That's why no one can die right now... for now.

If anyone's going to pull a sacrificial stunt (that sticks) though, I expect it to be Dirk. Kind of a bummer though how el beheado was just resurrected by plopping both parts of his body together.

Though really, I've been thinking that the Maid of Life class is quite goddamned OP. Seeing that Dirk could have died a heroic death over there (though the idea is glossed over due to people guessing it wouldn't stick), and seemingly nonchalantly being resurrected by someone else in healthy condition, if the Maid stays alive, then nobody dies, ever.

I think everyone only gets one Maid of Life revive.

[Darkmere]

Yeah, it's 1 per customer. Don't remember when that was established, probably prior to Game Over.

[Shinziril]

Jane's revival abilities (and the 1-use limit) were established here.

[Bumber]

The firefly was explicitly Calliope's mouthpiece during Roxy's dream where she ended up in Mom's clothes and met Calliope and Rose came too later. I forgot when that was, probably A6A5 or A6I5.

EDIT: got a quick leitmotifs video up for collide

This whole time I though Heir Conditioning was based on Pollyanna (I Believe in You), or some other Earthbound song.

[Putnam]

I have the incredible¹ ability to not hear songs where they aren't, so the thought never occurred to me.

¹this would've been sarcastic 8 months ago...

[DreamThorn]

I'm pretty sure that's still sarcastic.

Back on topic: I wish we had a dialogue-log on that last new page. (9994)

[Darkmere]

I'm not usually one for feels, but let's talk about Dad Crocker for a minute.

Guy's been in prison for months (not being tortured, but still), knowing full well he could easily escape, but that HIC would kill him if he tried. He's watched while his daughter was duped into basically a drug bender. This version also watched his daughter get brainwashed by his jailer, and kill her best friend (this Jane killed the native Roxy), while he was still helpless.

Finally he sees Jane show up with her friends, ready to take on HIC, who is partially empowered by a living god. During the fight, Cans interrupts and threatens the kids' safety, including Jane's. So Dad punches through a brick wall with his bare hands to watch their backs. (Bonus moment of awesome, Dad is so strong that when Cans punches him... nothing happens.) While he's busy, Jane gets badly wounded but he can't interfere.

When the fight's over, he sees the kids flying off together, with his daughter. He doesn't interrupt their victory to say goodbye, just stands aside because the little girl he raised doesn't need him anymore. He's so Dadly, by the way, that he accepts being stranded on Derse to let Jane celebrate.

And then he turns around to see "Jane" offering him her hand. One version of her never forgot him.

Bonus: For Nana, this is the first time she's seen her "son" in three years or longer, since Dad Egbert was brutally murdered by Bec Noir.