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[penguinofhonor]

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[Darkmere]

Why waste time? Tavros hasn't done anything useful yet, why break tradition?

The Strider comment cracked me up, though. I was getting tired of that other shoe not dropping.

So, whatever Kanaya was supposed to have done must have been pretty important. Jade's was "remove all of your planets and skaia from this universe," so odds are good that this Echidna will ask something about as impressive. Or just tell her to help Roxy poof up a new orb. One of those two.

[Bauglir]

Y'know, I'm still not entirely clear on how much we can rely on Caliborn's Masterpiece for predicting things. It kind of looked like retcon powers zapped the humans in, but all we have to go on is a blue glow, and that doesn't clear up how LE came into being when those weren't an issue (which is actually a thing that needs answering, unlike time loops, because the narrative is essentially linear). More importantly, we don't have any of the guarantees about inevitability that go with time travel; retcons can work however they damn well please.

[flabort]

Arg. Now I have to wait another week, and we STILL haven't seen what Tavsprite and Rosesprite are gonna be prototyped with.

[Bauglir]

Arg. Now I have to wait another week, and we STILL haven't seen what Tavsprite and Rosesprite are gonna be prototyped with.

One another, no doubt.

[Darkmere]

retcons can work however they damn well please.

I'm not sure this is the case. So far all John's powers have let him do is remove himself and Roxy from a doomed timeline, which is most of what time players do to begin with. It's not THAT much of a stretch from what Paradox Space already does. The characters in-comic believe LE is some kind of P-space sanctioned suicide mechanism... I don't think that's true. It seems more like P-space wants him out after someone else put him in, and I'm pretty sure that someone is Hussie, in universe. I expect something suitably meta-trollish like that to be the real cause of everything at this point, because it's the must pointless and infuriating thing that could happen.

[Bauglir]

It's true that there are probably rules, but they're poorly elaborated-upon, save that apparently it's definitely not time travel, and everything John does creates retroactive edits to past panels and flashes (with the exception of his feet not appearing in Make Her Pay, apparently?), which time travel definitely does not do. I honestly don't think timelines are relevant to it, except in the broadest sense where a timeline identical to what was the Alpha timeline is a doomed timeline, but that would seem to be a consequence of the fact that anything that could happen in the Alpha timeline is, by definition, a thing that could happen, and so would be contained within the set of all possible timelines anyway. It doesn't seem to be as though the retcon reaches into the timelines and swaps labels around so that one is doomed and one not.

Though that is, of course, just my interpretation.

[Darkmere]

My only real sticking point with it is that punk!vriska still exists and wasn't completely retconned out of existence like she would have been if everything was straighforward. There's gotta be something with Rosesprite, too, but I'm not sure if that's directly related or not.

But hey I'm cool with it, because this probably leads to more Meenah and she's awesome.

[hops]

So how does Vriska intend to allow Rosesprite to fool around with the window when she just cut the damn cord?

[XXXXYYYY]

So how does Vriska intend to allow Rosesprite to fool around with the window when she just cut the damn cord?

I think they have more windows.
Or Vriska just jumped in with no thought for the consequences like practically every time.
Or both.

[Sergarr]

everything John does creates retroactive edits to past panels and flashes

Not everything. Remember when he tackled himself in a sorta-stable-time-loop way?

EDIT: This is another reason why Vriska's plan is going to fail.

[ArKFallen]

EDIT: This is another reason why Vriska's plan is going to fail.

That's a very good one, I wonder how Lord Jack is going to respond(seeing as he is kind of LE)?

[Cerol Lenslens]

After reading a few peoples' tracts on Vriska's capacity for actual strategy, (or lack thereof) I have a silly and batshit insane prediction:

When the comic comes back, we get several more pages of character bonding and interaction, until the conflict happens, and everyone follows Vriska's plan resulting in GAME OVER 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO. Then John has to go back in time and ensure Vriska dies again, returning the timeline to its previous state except that now there's a live Vriska out in ghostspace somewhere who can just pop in out of seemingly nowhere and one-shot the Condesce with 'aaaaaaaall the luck' without having had any influence on the timeline in the meantime, (Sort of like how John is replacing a deceased John in the current timeline) and thus preventing GAME OVER 1: THE BLOODENING.

[Mageziya]

And that would take the comic another 1000 pages, but it'd be hilariously fitting.

[Darkmere]

Yeah that's what I'm worried about. we're getting close enough to the end that the options are either success or complete bullshit. I think the... what 3 or 4? doomed timelines are enough to prove the point. It's a trick that's been played, time for new ones.