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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #50730 on: January 07, 2015, 04:57:17 pm »

Gamzee gets thrown off his magnificient murder mojo by seeing a blue boy in pajamas? Huh. Well, I like to see the clown suffer as much as the next guy, but wasn't he like the third-to-strongest troll in straight up melee at that point? Vriska and, as it turned out, revamped Kanaya being ahead of the curve.

Sooo... What does the scouter magic cueball say about Terezi's powerlevel?
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #50731 on: January 07, 2015, 04:59:07 pm »

Sooo... What does the scouter magic cueball say about Terezi's powerlevel?
Probably "Power levels are useless and don't accurately reflect anything" :P
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #50732 on: January 07, 2015, 05:05:58 pm »

Gamzee gets thrown off his magnificient murder mojo by seeing a blue boy in pajamas? Huh. Well, I like to see the clown suffer as much as the next guy, but wasn't he like the third-to-strongest troll in straight up melee at that point? Vriska and, as it turned out, revamped Kanaya being ahead of the curve.

Sooo... What does the scouter magic cueball say about Terezi's powerlevel?
Nothing new, since Terezi, as we already saw (before and during GAME OVER), can survive ungodly beating from Gamzee + being stabbed with a sword and still can act for a prolonged period of time after that.

Also, she one-shotted Vriska.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #50733 on: January 07, 2015, 05:17:06 pm »

Sooo... What does the scouter magic cueball say about Terezi's powerlevel?
Probably "Power levels are useless and don't accurately reflect anything" :P
Probably same as her managing to OHK a player at the top of her echeladder. That is to say, nothing. Both were on a target unable to retaliate and had the power of narrative drama on their side.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #50734 on: January 07, 2015, 05:17:36 pm »

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« Last Edit: November 03, 2015, 12:06:42 am by penguinofhonor »
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #50735 on: January 07, 2015, 05:24:11 pm »

Terezi is strong because she has justice on her side.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2015, 05:27:41 pm by Graknorke »
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #50736 on: January 07, 2015, 05:28:03 pm »

The one with a sword, obviously.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #50737 on: January 07, 2015, 05:41:45 pm »

Never mind. :P
« Last Edit: January 07, 2015, 05:44:51 pm by Cerol Lenslens »
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #50738 on: January 07, 2015, 06:16:53 pm »

Yeah, not sure. Vriska's still probably going to die as it stands, because what made Terezi do it was the knowledge that letting her go gets everyone killed.
Though a huge contributor was Gamzee's manipulation, which caused the whole thing to be hugely confrontational from the start. The false murder accusations, being provoked by the note...
Terezi even mentions herself that she wishes there was a different way to have done it, and we get a sort of interesting reply from the exposition fairy:
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Terezi is obviously trying to change the situation it occurred in, and perhaps in doing so opening up a new course of action.
Probably just means taking Vriska out of going...
With this crazy retcon crap though, I'm guessing the surviving trolls join together to:
Kill Jack together (Vriska might have succeeded *alone*)
Callback Eridan's plan and join Jack against Lord English.
Fingers crossed :X
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #50739 on: January 07, 2015, 06:23:57 pm »

They still kinda need to get on the meteor for story to make sense, and why would they get onto the meteor ride without Jack running after them?
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #50740 on: January 07, 2015, 06:25:26 pm »

They still kinda need to get on the meteor for story to make sense, and why would they get onto the meteor ride without Jack running after them?
To get to the post-scratch session.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #50741 on: January 07, 2015, 06:29:43 pm »

They still kinda need to get on the meteor for story to make sense, and why would they get onto the meteor ride without Jack running after them?
To get to the post-scratch session.
why would they do that
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #50742 on: January 07, 2015, 06:30:54 pm »

They still kinda need to get on the meteor for story to make sense, and why would they get onto the meteor ride without Jack running after them?
To get to the post-scratch session.
why would they do that
Because they have the forge, a functioning Skaia, and are pretty much ready to jump in and win the session.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #50743 on: January 07, 2015, 06:31:18 pm »

They still kinda need to get on the meteor for story to make sense, and why would they get onto the meteor ride without Jack running after them?
To get to the post-scratch session.
why would they do that

For sloppy makeout parties meeting up with everyone else? Plus, their universe was destroyed in Cascade, so they have to scram.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #50744 on: January 07, 2015, 06:43:59 pm »

Doc Scratch, man. He's really good at telling the truth in misleading ways.

[Lord English is] more deadly [than Jack]. (True)
But the danger he poses is sanctioned by paradox space. (Because everything in the alpha timeline is sanctioned by paradox space)
It is a known quantity. His very existence in a universe will mean it will inevitably be torn apart. (Jack's is a known quantity, too, given that paradox space knows everything)
But there are rules to his entry, and his grim procession through paradox space is rather orderly. (Probably because Caliborn wants it that way) The present equilibrium has accounted for him, and will continue to. (Same with Jack, in fact. He hasn't said that Jack isn't sanctioned, nor that he's accounted for.)
Jack however is a loose cannon. He will not stop until he destroys everything he encounters. (But his being a loose cannon does not say that he's not accounted for or sanctioned.)
Additionally, his existence is your responsibility. (The same can be said for English.)
Refusing to venture out to destroy the sun in no way spares anyone from my master regardless. (True)
It is certainly true that destroying it will end my life. (Hee. True.)
And it is certainly true that The Tumor you will deliver to its location has enough power to destroy it completely. (But he didn't say that it will.)
But it is not the only way to kill me. (Apparently, Hussie's presence will do that. Or just living long enough for LE to explode out of him.)
It is simply a way I have suggested to you, which doubles as a way to disarm Jack, should you choose to go through with it. ("It" referring to destroying the green sun, which is not actually really possible, but the statement is true regardless.)

Man, what an a-hole.
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