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[Soadreqm]

But the actual death wasn't just, nor was she evil. She died because of a meddling spidertroll trying to destroy the Big Bad, not because of her own evil actions.

Yes, exactly. If Jake had killed her himself, I probably could accept that as just. And if she'd tried to fight Aranea, I guess her death could be heroic, sea witch mind control notwithstanding.

I guess even if she doesn't get godtier-resurrected, there are like three other ways to bring her back. Jane has a resurrection power. She can wear the Ring once someone cuts it off Aranea's finger. And John, with his fucked up fourth wall powers, can just alter the timeline so that she never died in the first place.

Also, there's something about Aranea that makes me not like her when she kills people. Vriska was a much better evil spidertroll.

[ECrownofFire]

Alternatively, Just and Heroic deaths only apply to the alpha timeline, and being a now doomed line all bets are off and everybody can and will die, reguardless of what any OP spidertrolls have to say on the matter. This would imply that Daves story arc is about him coming to terms with his powers and going back to stop Aranea from getting the ring.

And then John appears and fucks everything up.

[Jelle]

Seemed like a pretty anticlimatic death so I'm guessing it's for real, poor Jade
Time shenanigens seems like a very likely possability though, Dave should have the motivation to attempt to undo Aranae's plot. Yes I probably misspelled her name.

[Sergarr]

Seemed like a pretty anticlimatic death so I'm guessing it's for real, poor Jade
Time shenanigens seems like a very likely possability though, Dave should have the motivation to attempt to undo Aranae's plot. Yes I probably misspelled her name.

You consider dying to the full power of the Page of Hope and the million-years old Troll Ancestor after a pretty long struggle anti-climactic?

[Blade Master Model 42]

I think I now feel about Aranea the way the Vriska haters feel about Vriska.

[Rose]

Full-on, undiluted lust?

[Blade Master Model 42]

Full-on, undiluted lust?

No, that's the way I feel about Vriska.

[FuzzyZergling]

Slightly relevent?

[Frumple]

But the actual death wasn't just, nor was she evil. She died because of a meddling spidertroll trying to destroy the Big Bad, not because of her own evil actions.

Biggest concern is that the witch wearing red shoes got killed by a house falling on her. That... may count as just, regardless. Oz reverberates, maaan.

[Graknorke]

Slightly relevent?

That is amazingly accurate to the actual events of the story.

[Doomblade187]

Don't discount the Jane factor- I think she can still bring Jade back to life, even if it IS a just/heroic death.

And I could actually see the death being heroic, in a way- she was struggling to stop Jake from powering up and Aranea getting her way.

[Mageziya]

What if it's heroic AND just?

[Jelle]

You consider dying to the full power of the Page of Hope and the million-years old Troll Ancestor after a pretty long struggle anti-climactic?

Bam 'dead' instead of a graphic and dramatic death, followed by a silly sbhj joke and all that after such a powerful build up especially? Yeah anticlimatic as heck, and therefore real death.

[Qmarx]

You consider dying to the full power of the Page of Hope and the million-years old Troll Ancestor after a pretty long struggle anti-climactic?

Bam 'dead' instead of a graphic and dramatic death, followed by a silly sbhj joke and all that after such a powerful build up especially? Yeah anticlimatic as heck, and therefore real death.

Yep.

[Elephant Parade]

You consider dying to the full power of the Page of Hope and the million-years old Troll Ancestor after a pretty long struggle anti-climactic?

Bam 'dead' instead of a graphic and dramatic death, followed by a silly sbhj joke and all that after such a powerful build up especially? Yeah anticlimatic as heck, and therefore real death.

Yep.

Well, this is rather bad.