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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #42705 on: November 16, 2012, 07:29:21 pm »

That kinda makes sense. In a weird homestucky sorta way.
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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #42706 on: November 16, 2012, 07:31:09 pm »

What if one personality killing the other is a normal part of cherub biology?

I'm pretty sure Aranea said this outright in A6I3 walkaround 1.

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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #42707 on: November 16, 2012, 07:45:08 pm »

Well Calliope did like dressing up. He still used Caliborn's gun, but he also used Calliope's wand and had a lime green mansion. Unless he at one point gets over his hate to such a degree that he starts using more of her things. The fact his name is Lord English and his eyes are cue balls and you can't see his actual eyes is kind of odd. So who knows with Hussie?

EDIT: Now that I think about it, it's also a green sun. There isn't much in the way of Caliborn's actual color theme anywhere at all.

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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #42708 on: November 16, 2012, 08:52:15 pm »

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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #42709 on: November 16, 2012, 08:58:22 pm »

What if one personality killing the other is a normal part of cherub biology?

Looks like it to me. All things considered, that's not all that out there by Homestuck standards.

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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #42710 on: November 16, 2012, 09:06:59 pm »

What if one personality killing the other is a normal part of cherub biology?

Looks like it to me. All things considered, that's not all that out there by Homestuck standards.

Aranea had this to say:

"She is the other cheru8. The Lord's female counterpart, who once occupied the same 8ody. 8ut when they reached maturity, his personality dominated the host, assuming complete control. She technically died that day, and now her spirit presuma8ly roams somewhere out here in the furthest ring."

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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #42711 on: November 16, 2012, 09:22:38 pm »

 Mind you trolls have had a terrible track record of telling true facts to the protagonists.
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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #42712 on: November 16, 2012, 09:23:30 pm »

Yeah, but you people are discussing this thing as if it's a new idea as opposed to something that's only been recently reiterated :P

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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #42713 on: November 16, 2012, 09:27:47 pm »

Such an interesting puzzle.
I know this is common knowledge, but Doc Scratch is so tied to Calliope it hurts. 
"His" genetic code comes from the trolls, specifically from two pairings (Team Charge and Team Scourge) plus Gamzee.  Calliope likes trolls and shipping them.  It also includes the ~ath book!  Not the same one she drew in, but still.
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Space powers.  The revolver.  Wearing a coat over suspenders.  Never lying.  Being overly interested in little girls.  Yeah, I know, this isn't news to anyone.

You know how Sburb tries to teach players the value of friendship?  I think Caliborn's going to realize how hollow his victory is and accepts a formal surrender from Calliope.  They work together to become Lord English, all powerful master of both space and time.  It's Lord because Caliborn, the winner, is still in charge.  Hence Doc Scratch mentioning "his" master being evil.

So Lord English has all the powers of both, and both weapons, but in the end he really is Caliborn right?  Nope.  Caliborn is a red herring, and Calliope is a dirty cheater.  Perhaps it's the "wildcard" HONK code, or an arrangement with The Felt (who already serve her as Doc Scratch), but somehow she breaks the alliance and takes control of their body.  That's why there's almost nothing red about Lord English.  Only his cheeks, a detail that Calliope can't or won't correct.

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Edit: Also Cerol kinda ninja'd me.  But I made more baseless conjecture, that's worth something right?
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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #42714 on: November 16, 2012, 09:31:59 pm »

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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #42715 on: November 17, 2012, 05:49:23 am »

Totally has to be a roxy_ebubble in Fortbent now.

Food for thought:
Scratch has mentioned that he never failed to summon LE into a universe. Now, if he's the First Guardian of Alternia, how would he have managed to do so before (technical details notwithstanding, like saying that he never tried before, so he could never fail either)?
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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #42716 on: November 17, 2012, 06:54:22 am »

Totally has to be a roxy_ebubble in Fortbent now.

Food for thought:
Scratch has mentioned that he never failed to summon LE into a universe. Now, if he's the First Guardian of Alternia, how would he have managed to do so before (technical details notwithstanding, like saying that he never tried before, so he could never fail either)?
Alternate timeline versions. He was talking about them. About how he exists in multiple sessions and things. None of them have ever failed to summon LE.
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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #42717 on: November 17, 2012, 06:57:20 am »

He doesn't know what happens in alternate timelines, though. He wouldn't say that if he wasn't entirely certain, which he wouldn't.
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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #42718 on: November 17, 2012, 07:00:51 am »

Well he hasn't done any of that yet... What I want to know is when does he become irrelevant to the plot, thus able to go and kill RoboHussie/Ms Paint/Most likely Spades

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Re: MSPA Hotstuck: [S][A6I3]
« Reply #42719 on: November 17, 2012, 07:55:53 am »

You know how Sburb tries to teach players the value of friendship?  I think Caliborn's going to realize how hollow his victory is and accepts a formal surrender from Calliope.  They work together to become Lord English, all powerful master of both space and time.  It's Lord because Caliborn, the winner, is still in charge.  Hence Doc Scratch mentioning "his" master being evil.

So Lord English has all the powers of both, and both weapons, but in the end he really is Caliborn right?  Nope.  Caliborn is a red herring, and Calliope is a dirty cheater.  Perhaps it's the "wildcard" HONK code, or an arrangement with The Felt (who already serve her as Doc Scratch), but somehow she breaks the alliance and takes control of their body.  That's why there's almost nothing red about Lord English.  Only his cheeks, a detail that Calliope can't or won't correct.

And if this is correct, Calliope (female) in the form of a Lord (male) neatly parallels Caliborn's chess gambit of switching the king and queen's caps. Calliope really really hated that, and I could see her incorporating something like that into her revenge, as a form of one-upmanship.
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