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[Darvi]

Mini update.

[penguinofhonor]

Looks like his whole planet got sucked into the session instead of him having a created planet.

[Graknorke]

Mini update.

No, that is a standard full-on update.

[Darvi]

Eh, sense of scale and stuff.

[frostshotgg]

The last update where all we got was "You are now Caliborn" was a mini. This isn't.

[Darvi]

Thread got pretty low, so I gotta declare another update to keep it from sinking into obscurity.

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Somebody's having trouble adapting to being a character rather than a third-person perspective antagonist.

[Osmosis Jones]

Thread got pretty low, so I gotta declare another update to keep it from sinking into obscurity.

Indeed, which let's me post this!

Spoiler: Spoilered for epilepsy (click to show/hide)

[Liber celi]

I'll make this my only notifier pic.

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Somebody's having trouble adapting to being a character rather than a third-person perspective antagonist.

It's hard being a third-person perspective antagonist. It's hard and nobody understands.

Anyway, saw this back in 2005.  It might as well be fanart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob0IpO0RyCs

Heh. Headcanon Mage of Time.

[CJ1145]

I didn't know Buttmonkey of Time was a legit class.

[Soadreqm]

So I guess Caliborn's session is broken to hell and back.

I like the direct mention of weird magical rules that nobody understands and have no discernible origin or purpose. I guess the weird Juju bullshit is required to make him a proper mythological figure? They always have nonsensical limitations like that.

EDIT/THEORY: Caliborn's session is actually what a normal Sburb session is supposed to be like. The TRUE PURPOSE of the game is to kill your co-players and become an immortal time-traveling demon. All the stuff about growing a universe frog is just a failsafe, a bullshit spare adventure the game tosses up if more than one player successfully enters the game for whatever reason.

[FuzzyZergling]

Man, Caliborn has even more issues than I thought he did.

[SomeStupidGuy]

EDIT/THEORY: Caliborn's session is actually what a normal Sburb session is supposed to be like. The TRUE PURPOSE of the game is to kill your co-players and become an immortal time-traveling demon. All the stuff about growing a universe frog is just a failsafe, a bullshit spare adventure the game tosses up if more than one player successfully enters the game for whatever reason.

Then, all the time demons fight!

[Solifuge]

So, been doing some thinking on the nature of the 4th wall throughout the story. Homestuck started as a story that recognized reader input both in where the plot went, and even by the characters themselves. The characters made references to Hussie's earlier works, and the story recognized the author himself as a character (and a mortal one at that). Now, with how Calliope refers to the kids as "characters", and the fact that she seems to be reading the comic like us, it gets me thinking...

Calli's personality seems to represent fandom in response to a story, specifically to Homestuck. Suppose that Calli and/or her brother become Lord English, and that killing Hussie was a way for her/them to literally alter the plot in an authorial way, as some kind of supercharged 4th-wall-breaking fanfic writer who "assembles followers (ie. fans) to destroy universes (ie. stories) he has marked for predation".

It resonates with Hussie's thoughts regarding user-driven content, and the importance of an author exercising control over it... having the ultimate antagonist of a 4th-wall-breaking story be a fandom which reverse-breaks the fourth wall, and for all their love for it destroys the universe.

So, Cherubs are inherently aware of the fact that they're in a story... or at least aware in some fashion of the hand of Hussie hovering above them. I think Hussie's Authorial Control over the Cherubs is akin to the exiles' suggestions and commands to other characters. I guess that's why LE singled out Hussie in the intermission... he was tired of that authorial bullshit. And now he is a free agent, outside of the control of the author, and free to destroy the story universe which all his hated sister's fanfiction was about (probably because she too had a form of 4th-wall omniscience and was a Homestuck Fan), with the author himself cowering in fear from his own character.

Other Theories: The Cherubs are on the meteor the kids and trolls rode from session to session on, which they had to abandon in a hurry for some reason or other (hence Rose leaving her Diary for Callie, etc.) It drifted through Paradox Space and eventually crashed on the Cherub Planet... which is possibly the planet the Humans created/will create when they win their session. And the Cherubs (or perhaps Callie?) creates/has already created the Alpha Troll Planet as an expression of fandom, when their session is eventually won. Thus everything is a giant self-fulfilling loop.

[Johnfalcon99977]

I still believe the Theory that the Cherubs are just Ecto Siblings created from Jade, Karkat, and Lil' Cal. And also that all the Juju and magical rule stuff is just the bullshit Gamzee told them.

[Blade Master Model 42]

Solifuge's theory makes perfect sense to me.