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[Aqizzar]

No, it was all coherent, and makes plenty of sense.  This time around, Vriska did not create the problem nor put it in motion, she just hopes to guide a dude who was going to blow shit up anyway to blow shit up in a constructive direction.  And the selling out countless souls in the process part is just plain Vrisky Business like the old days.

Does give me a chance to pontificate a theory I just had.

Spoiler: THINGS HAPPENING (click to show/hide)

A) Aranea is trying to find Calliope's ghost, even if she doesn't seem to know of her by name.  If she ever said exactly why, I forgot, but looking for a solution in the source of the problem would be her sort of thing to do.  According to Vriska, and pretty much every other exposition source, Lord English is looking for her as much as he has a specific goal at all.

B) Meenah is trying (unsuccessfully so far) to gather an "army" of ghosts (living people welcome) to take Lord English head on somehow in a way she hasn't thought of yet.  According to Vriska, Lord English is attracted to large concentrations of souls, so he can do is rainbullshit laser thing.

C) Vriska is trying to find some unknown "treasure" that holds to key to defeating Lord English.  Her possible plan to fill in the blank spaces of the map and find this treasure is to trick Lord English into lighting enough cosmic bonfires in the right direction for her to find the way.  She plans to do this by using some bait, such as herself or a large concentration of souls, and convincing him this bait is headed towards Calliope's ghost.

You all do see where this is headed right?

Meenah and Aranea will stick side by side as they pursue their respective goals, because neither shows any intention of being far apart from the other, making them the perfect bait for Vriska's plan.  And after the likely obliteration a large portion of infinite space, Vriska will find that the "treasure" capable of defeating Lord English she was lead to by the death of an unspeakable number of people and by "pretending" to be searching for Calliope's ghost will be...





Wait for it...





Calliope's ghost, of course.  With Lord English and his swath of technicolor destruction hot on her heels.

Mark my words, there is one chance left for Vriska to completely fuck everyone over, and I'll bet my Sburb CD that it's going to happen.

[Meansdarling]

That last face John is making is really goofy. Tavros being all creepy in the background. lol

[Liber celi]

pRECIOUS,,,

[Cerol Lenslens]

No, it was all coherent, and makes plenty of sense.  This time around, Vriska did not create the problem nor put it in motion, she just hopes to guide a dude who was going to blow shit up anyway to blow shit up in a constructive direction.  And the selling out countless souls in the process part is just plain Vrisky Business like the old days.

Does give me a chance to pontificate a theory I just had.

Spoiler: THINGS HAPPENING (click to show/hide)

A) Aranea is trying to find Calliope's ghost, even if she doesn't seem to know of her by name.  If she ever said exactly why, I forgot, but looking for a solution in the source of the problem would be her sort of thing to do.  According to Vriska, and pretty much every other exposition source, Lord English is looking for her as much as he has a specific goal at all.

B) Meenah is trying (unsuccessfully so far) to gather an "army" of ghosts (living people welcome) to take Lord English head on somehow in a way she hasn't thought of yet.  According to Vriska, Lord English is attracted to large concentrations of souls, so he can do is rainbullshit laser thing.

C) Vriska is trying to find some unknown "treasure" that holds to key to defeating Lord English.  Her possible plan to fill in the blank spaces of the map and find this treasure is to trick Lord English into lighting enough cosmic bonfires in the right direction for her to find the way.  She plans to do this by using some bait, such as herself or a large concentration of souls, and convincing him this bait is headed towards Calliope's ghost.

You all do see where this is headed right?

Meenah and Aranea will stick side by side as they pursue their respective goals, because neither shows any intention of being far apart from the other, making them the perfect bait for Vriska's plan.  And after the likely obliteration a large portion of infinite space, Vriska will find that the "treasure" capable of defeating Lord English she was lead to by the death of an unspeakable number of people and by "pretending" to be searching for Calliope's ghost will be...





Wait for it...





Calliope's ghost, of course.  With Lord English and his swath of technicolor destruction hot on her heels.

Mark my words, there is one chance left for Vriska to completely fuck everyone over, and I'll bet my Sburb CD that it's going to happen.

If it helps, helping create Jack was a necessary step towards creating LE. So, in a way, Vriska's responsible for that, too. 

[penguinofhonor]

Did we ever find out how Jack got into the universe-pond to kill the kids' Bilious Slick?

[Putnam]

Did we ever find out how Jack got into the universe-pond to kill the kids' Bilious Slick?

He flew. Isn't Skaia probably the universe-pond anyway?

[Bauglir]

My understanding is that Skaia turns into the pond once the game is won, so yeah.

[Soadreqm]

Did we ever find out how Jack got into the universe-pond to kill the kids' Bilious Slick?

You mean the Trolls' Bilious Slick? Because I don't think he's killed the kids' frog. He kills the troll genesis frog in Cascade, by flying next to it and blasting it with the Red Miles.

[penguinofhonor]

Well, the kids' bilious slick because that was their universe. But not their universe as in the one they made. Their universe as in the one they lived in.

Why is it so hard to talk about universes?

[Diablous]

No, it was all coherent, and makes plenty of sense.  This time around, Vriska did not create the problem nor put it in motion, she just hopes to guide a dude who was going to blow shit up anyway to blow shit up in a constructive direction.  And the selling out countless souls in the process part is just plain Vrisky Business like the old days.

Does give me a chance to pontificate a theory I just had.

Spoiler: THINGS HAPPENING (click to show/hide)

A) Aranea is trying to find Calliope's ghost, even if she doesn't seem to know of her by name.  If she ever said exactly why, I forgot, but looking for a solution in the source of the problem would be her sort of thing to do.  According to Vriska, and pretty much every other exposition source, Lord English is looking for her as much as he has a specific goal at all.

B) Meenah is trying (unsuccessfully so far) to gather an "army" of ghosts (living people welcome) to take Lord English head on somehow in a way she hasn't thought of yet.  According to Vriska, Lord English is attracted to large concentrations of souls, so he can do is rainbullshit laser thing.

C) Vriska is trying to find some unknown "treasure" that holds to key to defeating Lord English.  Her possible plan to fill in the blank spaces of the map and find this treasure is to trick Lord English into lighting enough cosmic bonfires in the right direction for her to find the way.  She plans to do this by using some bait, such as herself or a large concentration of souls, and convincing him this bait is headed towards Calliope's ghost.

You all do see where this is headed right?

Meenah and Aranea will stick side by side as they pursue their respective goals, because neither shows any intention of being far apart from the other, making them the perfect bait for Vriska's plan.  And after the likely obliteration a large portion of infinite space, Vriska will find that the "treasure" capable of defeating Lord English she was lead to by the death of an unspeakable number of people and by "pretending" to be searching for Calliope's ghost will be...





Wait for it...





Calliope's ghost, of course.  With Lord English and his swath of technicolor destruction hot on her heels.

Mark my words, there is one chance left for Vriska to completely fuck everyone over, and I'll bet my Sburb CD that it's going to happen.

Glad to see I managed to get my point across. And I am really liking this theory. I can definitely see it happening and I'm sure the reactions to that would be just priceless.

Well, the kids' bilious slick because that was their universe. But not their universe as in the one they made. Their universe as in the one they lived in.

Why is it so hard to talk about universes?

Natural side effect of there being characters from multiple universes and having some of the characters create the universe the others came from. It becomes difficult to say which universe belongs to whom in that situation. The confusion is one of the things I love about Homestuck. You don't find stories that cause this kind of confusion often.

[FuzzyZergling]

So who all here is of the opinion that Caliborn and Lord English are not the same person? Because I am.

[Rose]

Caliborn is just a distraction from the true goal.

A red herring, as you will.

[Putnam]

So who all here is of the opinion that Caliborn and Lord English are not the same person? Because I am.

Then who is he? Calliope's other cherub brother who is the Lord of Time?

[Darvi]

Of course, his class is Waste, as opposed to LE's Lord.

[Soadreqm]

So who all here is of the opinion that Caliborn and Lord English are not the same person? Because I am.

How could they not be the same person? Are you suggesting that there are TWO omnicidal jackasses with green skulls for heads, only one leg, a missing tooth and an assault rifle for a weapon? I guess depending on how Calliope's death goes, there might still technically be two such characters, but they're still the same PERSON. Sharing a body. It doesn't really matter WHICH one of them is in control, the guy blowing up the dream bubbles is still the same bloody greenskinned creep we saw chewing his own leg off.

If there really are two omnicidal rifle-toting jackasses with green skulls for heads and missing legs and teeth, it's going to be pretty weird when they meet.

Anyway, those psycheouts are SO last Act. B|