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Re: MSPA Homestuck: Jackbreak - the joke is violence
« Reply #37950 on: May 06, 2012, 07:50:57 pm »

...TrollJack built an entire city..
Really? when the hell did he do that?

Anyway, I may be going with the boring option here, but Bec Noir (Kids Jack) easily takes the cake for badassness. I'm not even going to try and list all the things hes done. They were dick moves, sure, but they were awesome dick moves.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: Jackbreak - the joke is violence
« Reply #37951 on: May 06, 2012, 07:52:22 pm »

Prescratch trolljack, because we'll never get to see him.


...TrollJack built an entire city..
Really? when the hell did he do that?
Remember the whole intermission thing? That was his city. When DIE put jack's pin into his voodoo doll, the whole city turned into a desert wasteland.

...hehe, stabmayor of stabtown.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: Jackbreak - the joke is violence
« Reply #37952 on: May 06, 2012, 07:53:28 pm »

Scratch!Jack hasn't had much time to demonstrate his genius, but believe me, we won't be disappointed.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: Jackbreak - the joke is violence
« Reply #37953 on: May 06, 2012, 08:31:00 pm »

Aren't all the Jacks technically the same, and therefore equally badass?
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: Jackbreak - the joke is violence
« Reply #37954 on: May 06, 2012, 08:35:27 pm »

They are only the same at the very start of the session. Then they diverge, and we can start ranking the divergences. If it makes you feel better, think of it as ranking which is the more badass life Jack is leading in each instance.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: Jackbreak - the joke is violence
« Reply #37955 on: May 06, 2012, 09:42:39 pm »

...TrollJack built an entire city..

Really? when the hell did he do that?

Spades Slick and the Midnight Crew.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: Jackbreak - the joke is violence
« Reply #37956 on: May 06, 2012, 09:44:15 pm »

...TrollJack built an entire city..

Really? when the hell did he do that?

Spades Slick and the Midnight Crew.

IIRC he built it specifically to attract people there, and then kill them.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: Jackbreak - the joke is violence
« Reply #37957 on: May 07, 2012, 07:25:44 pm »

So the entire city is basically the equivalent of the lantern on those deep sea fish?
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: Jackbreak - the joke is violence
« Reply #37958 on: May 07, 2012, 07:46:34 pm »

...TrollJack built an entire city..
Really? when the hell did he do that?
Spades Slick and the Midnight Crew.

IIRC he built it specifically to attract people there, and then kill them.

It's the City Where No One Lives... because he doesn't let them live that long.  You gotta hand it to Jack, in every universe he is a dedicated man.

I hate this tumblr so damn much for getting me to laugh at it.  "The Simpsons did it" indeed.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: Jackbreak - the joke is violence
« Reply #37959 on: May 07, 2012, 07:56:39 pm »

...TrollJack built an entire city..
Really? when the hell did he do that?
Spades Slick and the Midnight Crew.

IIRC he built it specifically to attract people there, and then kill them.

It's the City Where No One Lives... because he doesn't let them live that long.  You gotta hand it to Jack, in every universe he is a dedicated man.

 ??? Was this ever actually stated anywhere? I certainly don't recall it. I don't have an eidetic memory or anything, but I've reread Homestuck ten or twenty times, so I'm pretty certain it was never said there.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: Jackbreak - the joke is violence
« Reply #37960 on: May 07, 2012, 08:03:04 pm »

I'm pretty sure it came up in the Intermission, but it wasn't really "Jack built the green city".  It was just Jack saying to himself "I [you] built this town", as Made Men love to say to themselves.  There was a hint that Jack was one of the "Founding Exiles" on Alternia much like WV on Earth, but I do find it kind of hard to believe that even with three henchmen he would swing a hammer long enough to build a fake New York.
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« Reply #37961 on: May 07, 2012, 08:18:38 pm »

??? Was this ever actually stated anywhere? I certainly don't recall it. I don't have an eidetic memory or anything, but I've reread Homestuck ten or twenty times, so I'm pretty certain it was never said there.

I don't recall it either. As far as I can remember, it's never been stated what Spades Slick did in his city or to its inhabitants. You can make assumptions, because of crime lords and prohibition theming, but never anything set in stone.

There was mention in the Doc Scratch marathonologue that if HIC looked closer at the surface of Alternia when she arrived, she would find a city of dead exiles, but I don't take that to mean Spades Slick built the city to lure people in and kill them.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: Jackbreak - the joke is violence
« Reply #37962 on: May 07, 2012, 08:21:31 pm »

I'm pretty sure it came up in the Intermission, but it wasn't really "Jack built the green city".  It was just Jack saying to himself "I [you] built this town", as Made Men love to say to themselves.  There was a hint that Jack was one of the "Founding Exiles" on Alternia much like WV on Earth, but I do find it kind of hard to believe that even with three henchmen he would swing a hammer long enough to build a fake New York.
He has to have had a serious hand in building it, because when Dies (I think) put his pin in the doll, the city disappeared. Since Dies'(?) power moves him to a timeline where the target of his pin is dead, but not forward or backward in time, we must assume that Slick had a serious role in making the city. Or is otherwise so intricately tied to the city that he cannot be dead in a timeline, at that particular moment, where the city existed as it did then.

I wasn't arguing the fact that Slick built the city. I know where it says that he did. It's in the first Intermission, near the beginning of the whole ordeal if I recall correctly. I was questioning his motivation for building the city.

Oh, and the green city is not the city Jack built, because Jack was on Alternia, and the green city is on Alternia's moon. The green one.

??? Was this ever actually stated anywhere? I certainly don't recall it. I don't have an eidetic memory or anything, but I've reread Homestuck ten or twenty times, so I'm pretty certain it was never said there.

I don't recall it either. As far as I can remember, it's never been stated what Spades Slick did in his city or to its inhabitants. You can make assumptions, because of crime lords and prohibition theming, but never anything set in stone.

There was mention in the Doc Scratch marathonologue that if HIC looked closer at the surface of Alternia when she arrived, she would find a city of dead exiles, but I don't take that to mean Spades Slick built the city to lure people in and kill them.

If we take all events in the Intermission as canon, which I think we're supposed to, the city is full of dead exiles because Slick forced English's safe open with Crowbar's crowbar, which unmade the safe and did some seriously bad shit to everything. Of course, I find myself wondering how, precisely, Slick made it to the moon.

Shenanigans, clearly.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: Jackbreak - the joke is violence
« Reply #37963 on: May 07, 2012, 08:24:44 pm »

I'm pretty sure it came up in the Intermission, but it wasn't really "Jack built the green city".  It was just Jack saying to himself "I [you] built this town", as Made Men love to say to themselves.  There was a hint that Jack was one of the "Founding Exiles" on Alternia much like WV on Earth, but I do find it kind of hard to believe that even with three henchmen he would swing a hammer long enough to build a fake New York.

Yah, I think it's far more likely that he just killed enough carapacians to get accepted as de facto leader, then ordered everyone around. Without his stern but stabby leadership, the city would never have come to be.

Oh, and the green city is not the city Jack built, because Jack was on Alternia, and the green city is on Alternia's moon. The green one.

I thought the green city was on the pink moon. Wasn't the green moon where the felt's mansion was?
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: Jackbreak - the joke is violence
« Reply #37964 on: May 07, 2012, 08:29:18 pm »

Oh, and the green city is not the city Jack built, because Jack was on Alternia, and the green city is on Alternia's moon. The green one.

I thought the green city was on the pink moon. Wasn't the green moon where the felt's mansion was?

Nope, because Doc Scratch was on the green moon, and his apartment overlooks the green city. As far as I am aware, the pink moon is hardly even addressed, except to say that it's the natural moon of Alternia as evidenced by preTrollScratch!Vriska saying that she was unfamiliar with it in the dream bubble.

I might be misremembering. I haven't reread for a while, so some of the more recent things are slipping my mind.
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