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[Max White]

First sentence and already a mistake.

You're forgetting Jane's bunnies, too. Which is what I'm talking about.

What? Nope, Dave gave John the first Bunny, when it was fresh and new, as payback for the awesome Ben Stiller Glasses. And totally keeping track of the Jade bunny, she sent it to Jake.

[Darvi]

If, as you claimed, somebody would leave the veil with one of those meteors, then they would end up in the post-scratch universe too.  But there, Karkat already created another, that is, the exact same person. Cue doppelganger murder.

First sentence and already a mistake.

You're forgetting Jane's bunnies, too. Which is what I'm talking about.

What? Nope, Dave gave John the first Bunny, when it was fresh and new, as payback for the awesome Ben Stiller Glasses. And totally keeping track of the Jade bunny, she sent it to Jake.

Don't pretend, I saw that edit. And I said Jane. With an n.

[Max White]

No idea what you are on about. Also, the Jane bunny is irrelevant. It could very well not even be the same Bunny, just something Dirk did.

[GlyphGryph]

Darvi... you clearly have understood absolutely nothing of what I've tried to say.

I'm trying to think of another way to explain it.

[Darvi]

To clarify.

1. Dave gets Bunny, gives it to John, who drops it in oil and gives it to Rose.7
2. Come the Reckoning, two bunnies are created, one for each universal instance. One becomes a wizard, the other gets fixed and given to John and then Jade.
3. Reckoning, another two bunnies. One becomes an archeologist, the other gets sent to Jake to become Uberbunny.

In the end, there are 3 Liv Tylers, not counting Sebastian. Uberbunny is one of them, Jane has the other two.

[zchris13]

Darvi... you clearly have understood absolutely nothing of what I've tried to say.

I'm trying to think of another way to explain it.

I understand what your saying, and the answer is QUANTUM. AKA WEIRD PLOT SHIT.

[Max White]

Actually, it would, as it meant that there were two condesces running around.

Well yes, a pre scratch and a post scratch, but what you forget is that while the S'burb kids escaped the scratch, the S'Grub kids did not, thus she was wiped out into dream bubbles.

[penguinofhonor]

god i missed time shenanigans

[Darvi]

Well yes, a pre scratch and a post scratch, but what you forget is that while the S'burb kids escaped the scratch, the S'Grub kids did not, thus she was wiped out into dream bubbles.

Again, let me clarify with good ol' Liv. There are, ignoring the fact that two of them are the very same bunny, two versions of her/him. Pre-scratch liv which Jane has, and post-scratch Liv which Dirk got his hands on.


Anything sent through the portals is, unless it's an ectibiological child, duplicated, because it will have been created twice, once pre-scratch (this version doesn't get erased), and once post-scratch, meaning that there's two of those around.

[Max White]

Yes, and the Condesce was duped in two, one pre and one post. But the pre scratch one was destroyed in the S'Grub scratch. When you have one, double it to make two, then destroy one, you have one left.

[Darvi]

Yes, and the Condesce was duped in two, one pre and one post. But the pre scratch one was destroyed in the S'Grub scratch. When you have one, double it to make two, then destroy one, you have one left.

GG claimed she could've used a meteor. So the double got doubled again, one of which hanging around in the post-scratch universe.

[BackgroundGuy]

Well yes, a pre scratch and a post scratch, but what you forget is that while the S'burb kids escaped the scratch, the S'Grub kids did not, thus she was wiped out into dream bubbles.

Again, let me clarify with good ol' Liv. There are, ignoring the fact that two of them are the very same bunny, two versions of her/him. Pre-scratch liv which Jane has, and post-scratch Liv which Dirk got his hands on.


Anything sent through the portals is, unless it's an ectibiological child, duplicated, because it will have been created twice, once pre-scratch (this version doesn't get erased), and once post-scratch, meaning that there's two of those around.

...Do we even know how the Condesce got into the session yet?  I'm blanking on remembering her method of entry.  Did she enter via the Furthest Ring like the meteor lab kids, or did LE arrange some Nth wall breaking, explaining his appearance in Hussie's Suite? 

Hmm.  Logically, she either has access to time travel within the new session's Medium somehow, or she somehow entered before Jane did in order to arrange all these pregame assassination shenanigans.  I'm not sure if I'm coming across coherently.

[Darvi]

Obviously she hitched a ride with LE the universe-jumping and -nomming demon.

[Max White]

Yes, and the Condesce was duped in two, one pre and one post. But the pre scratch one was destroyed in the S'Grub scratch. When you have one, double it to make two, then destroy one, you have one left.

GG claimed she could've used a meteor. So the double got doubled again, one of which hanging around in the post-scratch universe.

Just because she used a meteor doesn't make her subject to time doubling. Heck, just using a portal doesn't subject you to scratch doubling, else all those other meteors that hit earth would have also been doubled, and there would have still been a reckoning. That effect is caused by Skaia's selective response, rather than a blanket effect for all portals.

[Darvi]

GG implicitly meant one of those baby-delivery meteors.

Mind you, not that I think this theory of his is likely.