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Re: MSPA: There is always a 'U'pdate!
« Reply #10065 on: October 06, 2010, 05:59:03 pm »

Given the sheer number of questions Dave's disguises raise I'm betting on Break the Bank
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Re: MSPA: There is always a 'U'pdate!
« Reply #10066 on: October 06, 2010, 06:05:39 pm »

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Re: MSPA: There is always a 'U'pdate!
« Reply #10067 on: October 06, 2010, 06:08:05 pm »

While I would wonder whether the other natives of the other worlds have a similar stock market thing, the salamanders seem too simplistic to do something like that, the natives of jades world are total unknowns (possibly frogs if Hussie is sticking with the aquatic animal theme here), and we know very little about the turtles of Rose's world.

Yeah, every bunch of consorts probably has it's own weird passtimes and "industry".  The salamanders had mushroom farming and pipes.  Just trading these commodity shares.  Fuckin' pain in the ass.

C'mon Hussie, give us the extended Wall Street reference we all know you want.
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Re: MSPA: There is always a 'U'pdate!
« Reply #10068 on: October 06, 2010, 08:53:23 pm »

So you're saying that Jade's consorts will be Gekkos?
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Re: MSPA: There is always a 'U'pdate!
« Reply #10069 on: October 06, 2010, 08:57:21 pm »

Jade's consort will not be just any Gecko, it will be the Geico Gecko.

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Re: MSPA: There is always a 'U'pdate!
« Reply #10070 on: October 06, 2010, 08:58:55 pm »

The perfect crime. Although I wonder why he hasn't amassed more money to not need Johns boondollar now. Just give past Dave all future spoils and tell him where to invest.

But if you think about it, that would create an unstable time loop, and the one consistent part of WTS that we've seen is that unstable time loops are self terminating; anything from them is doomed. By taking the slower, stable route, Dave ensures that all his time clones (and more importantly, the funds that they generate) are not going to die/vanish in the near future.
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Re: MSPA: There is always a 'U'pdate!
« Reply #10071 on: October 06, 2010, 09:02:11 pm »

The perfect crime. Although I wonder why he hasn't amassed more money to not need Johns boondollar now. Just give past Dave all future spoils and tell him where to invest.

But if you think about it, that would create an unstable time loop, and the one consistent part of WTS that we've seen is that unstable time loops are self terminating; anything from them is doomed. By taking the slower, stable route, Dave ensures that all his time clones (and more importantly, the funds that they generate) are not going to die/vanish in the near future.
How would it create an unstable loop if he just gives past Dave a certain fixed amount? If he gives ALL of the money to him, then yeah, that's a problem, but a fixed amount should be fine.
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Re: MSPA: There is always a 'U'pdate!
« Reply #10072 on: October 06, 2010, 09:03:58 pm »

How would it create an unstable loop if he just gives past Dave a certain fixed amount? If he gives ALL of the money to him, then yeah, that's a problem, but a fixed amount should be fine.


The perfect crime. Although I wonder why he hasn't amassed more money to not need Johns boondollar now. Just give past Dave all future spoils and tell him where to invest.
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Re: MSPA: There is always a 'U'pdate!
« Reply #10073 on: October 06, 2010, 09:06:06 pm »

 Think of it this way: Rose has expressed that their goal right now is to tear the game apart because fuck it, they can't win anyway. By making an unstable time loop Dave would just add to the chaos and get rich quick.

 It's the perfect crime.
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Re: MSPA: There is always a 'U'pdate!
« Reply #10074 on: October 06, 2010, 09:10:35 pm »

Think of it this way: Rose has expressed that their goal right now is to tear the game apart because fuck it, they can't win anyway. By making an unstable time loop Dave would just add to the chaos and get rich quick.

 It's the perfect crime.

Dave knows that Rose is fucking crazy.
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Re: MSPA: There is always a 'U'pdate!
« Reply #10075 on: October 06, 2010, 09:13:19 pm »

As if Dave ever gave a crap about the stability or lack thereof of loops in time.  He threw his own time-shifted corpse out a window, after summarily deciding that he didn't want to die that way after seeing the body.  Just up and there fucks over causal-linear time.  He's Dave, he can do that.  Hell, I'm surprised he isn't carrying around photos of things so he can keep track of how the future (and past maybe) changes, since he is an amateur photographer and all.
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Re: MSPA: There is always a 'U'pdate!
« Reply #10076 on: October 06, 2010, 09:19:59 pm »

As if Dave ever gave a crap about the stability or lack thereof of loops in time.  He threw his own time-shifted corpse out a window, after summarily deciding that he didn't want to die that way after seeing the body.  Just up and there fucks over causal-linear time.  He's Dave, he can do that.  Hell, I'm surprised he isn't carrying around photos of things so he can keep track of how the future (and past maybe) changes, since he is an amateur photographer and all.

But that's just it; the dead dave was from an unstable time loop, and was thus doomed.

Think of it this way: Rose has expressed that their goal right now is to tear the game apart because fuck it, they can't win anyway. By making an unstable time loop Dave would just add to the chaos and get rich quick.

 It's the perfect crime.

It would add to the chaos, yes, but the money would still be doomed. Unstable time loop = death. Aradia bots 2 hrough infinity are proof of that. Also, as Cheetar so eloquently put it,

Dave knows that Rose is fucking crazy.

and he's too cool for crazy.
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« Reply #10077 on: October 06, 2010, 09:48:42 pm »

As if Dave ever gave a crap about the stability or lack thereof of loops in time.  He threw his own time-shifted corpse out a window, after summarily deciding that he didn't want to die that way after seeing the body.  Just up and there fucks over causal-linear time.  He's Dave, he can do that.  Hell, I'm surprised he isn't carrying around photos of things so he can keep track of how the future (and past maybe) changes, since he is an amateur photographer and all.

But that's just it; the dead dave was from an unstable time loop, and was thus doomed.

No, the entire event was unstable.  You got to flip it cause-ways.  The loop is supposed to work like this - Dave walks in, sees lack of books, goes back in time a few minutes, gets shanked by DD, a few minutes later the scene plays out again.  Instead, upon seeing one of himself, Dave decides not to do the obvious and forgoes any time travel.  That means the play of events that should have created the corpse he threw out the window never happened, because he talked himself out of it upon seeing a corpse that had no causal reason to exist.

Which I guess indicates a non-discretionary persistence of matter across the fourth dimension, and puts the kibosh on my Back to the Future photos idea.  Pity.  The universe really does eat paradoxes for breakfast.
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Re: MSPA: There is always a 'U'pdate!
« Reply #10078 on: October 06, 2010, 09:52:39 pm »

No, the entire event was unstable.  You got to flip it cause-ways.
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Re: MSPA: There is always a 'U'pdate!
« Reply #10079 on: October 06, 2010, 09:57:04 pm »

Agreed. Time to clock off.
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