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Re: MSPA: My Troll Ship Is Better Than Your Troll Ship
« Reply #5220 on: August 11, 2010, 08:03:36 am »

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For instance, human players would never be able to adequately diagnose the relationship between the queen and her archagent. But troll players could immediately place it as a dead ringer for kismesissitude. They would think we were all pretty stupid for not getting it. And they would be right.
This is a somewhat silly paragraph. We did easily diagnose it as somewhat of a rivalry, and the kids likely would have said the same had they been involved to the extent the Trolls had been. I don't see how humans would be stupid for not knowing the troll reproductive cycle.

 The whole thing just rubs on me as a little pretentious.
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Re: MSPA: My Troll Ship Is Better Than Your Troll Ship
« Reply #5221 on: August 11, 2010, 08:08:24 am »

I suspect that TvTropes doesn't exist in the Homestuck universe.

Also no one wants to engage in futile MYTHOLOGY SPECULATION with me, dammit.
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Re: MSPA: My Troll Ship Is Better Than Your Troll Ship
« Reply #5222 on: August 11, 2010, 08:11:35 am »

The whole thing just rubs on me as a little pretentious.

Uh, durr, that's kind of the point. In case you haven't noticed, Trolls are very pretentious, especially when they're explaining things to the humans. The only way this stuff would be documented (as the reference point for the narrator) would be in a highly biased pro-Troll form.
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Re: MSPA: My Troll Ship Is Better Than Your Troll Ship
« Reply #5223 on: August 11, 2010, 08:20:23 am »

 The thing is, every time Troll biology was described or the situation described was from the narrators perspective. One could assume it is a Troll narrator in this universe, but I wasn't given a clear sign that it wasn't the usual narrator other than the sudden haste in plot development.

 But I get what you mean.
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Re: MSPA: My Troll Ship Is Better Than Your Troll Ship
« Reply #5224 on: August 11, 2010, 08:50:15 am »

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For instance, human players would never be able to adequately diagnose the relationship between the queen and her archagent. But troll players could immediately place it as a dead ringer for kismesissitude. They would think we were all pretty stupid for not getting it. And they would be right.
This is a somewhat silly paragraph. We did easily diagnose it as somewhat of a rivalry, and the kids likely would have said the same had they been involved to the extent the Trolls had been. I don't see how humans would be stupid for not knowing the troll reproductive cycle.

 The whole thing just rubs on me as a little pretentious.

I agree, and got that feeling from every time troll background info has come up. It's not really that hard, and I haven't got the sense that Hussie's trying to be pretentious because the trolls can be pretentious or anything like that either. How I feel about this whole matter:

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Re: MSPA: My Troll Ship Is Better Than Your Troll Ship
« Reply #5225 on: August 11, 2010, 09:26:56 am »

Also no one wants to engage in futile MYTHOLOGY SPECULATION with me, dammit.

I gave you a perfectly viable paragraph on troll relationships and lazer cocaine just one page ago. Speculate away.
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Re: MSPA: My Troll Ship Is Better Than Your Troll Ship
« Reply #5226 on: August 11, 2010, 09:30:20 am »

There's no need. "Friendship = Ultra-Heroin" has been an essential part of the MSPA universes since Problem Sleuth.
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Re: MSPA: My Troll Ship Is Better Than Your Troll Ship
« Reply #5227 on: August 11, 2010, 09:52:47 am »

When it comes to Lord English, who knows? The guy is an interdimentional demon, after all. All we really know is that he can only be harmed by glitches in reality and wears a massive coat that reflects the status of spacetime. The First Guardians we know of are some of the most powerful beings in Homestuck so far, beside post-regicide Jack and Bro. Still, they aren't omnipotent at all, as Jade snuck past Becquerel and Doc Scratch was suprised by one of the trolls. I forget how.
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Re: MSPA: My Troll Ship Is Better Than Your Troll Ship
« Reply #5228 on: August 11, 2010, 10:11:07 am »

When it comes to Lord English, who knows?

Lord English exists outside of time, can command beings at will to arrange the events that bring about his own entry, knows all, sees all, and cannot be confronted by any power in the story.

Lord English is the player, i.e. the reader, writ large.  And if Hussie's recent posts on his forum are anything to go by (and being Hussie, they almost never are), "Lord English" can end the "world" at any time.
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Re: MSPA: My Troll Ship Is Better Than Your Troll Ship
« Reply #5229 on: August 11, 2010, 10:12:05 am »

When it comes to Lord English, who knows?

Lord English exists outside of time, can command beings at will to arrange the events that bring about his own entry, knows all, sees all, and cannot be confronted by any power in the story.

Lord English is the player, i.e. the reader, writ large.  And if Hussie's recent posts on his forum are anything to go by (and being Hussie, they almost never are), "Lord English" can end the "world" at any time.


But he can't end the world, because it's just too much fun.
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Re: MSPA: My Troll Ship Is Better Than Your Troll Ship
« Reply #5230 on: August 11, 2010, 10:21:32 am »

I've very surprised that people don't like this exposition. It's one of my absolute favourite things about the story so far.
You people just dont have enoguth imagination.
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Re: MSPA: My Troll Ship Is Better Than Your Troll Ship
« Reply #5231 on: August 11, 2010, 10:24:01 am »

You people just dont have enoguth imagination.

If I'm right (and I could be wrong), the problem most people have with the exposition is that it does not leave enough to the imagination.
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Re: MSPA: My Troll Ship Is Better Than Your Troll Ship
« Reply #5232 on: August 11, 2010, 10:28:51 am »

Fewer pretty pictures too.  Not to mention how high falutin' and ridiculous some of it is.  The "narrator" (i.e. Hussie) talks about romance like the only reason people fall in love and get jiggy with it is to make babies.  And while I know describing everything in the most verbose and convoluted way possible is a hallmark of the story, these recent bouts have felt more dry and irritated rather than outright humorous.
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Re: MSPA: My Troll Ship Is Better Than Your Troll Ship
« Reply #5233 on: August 11, 2010, 10:31:55 am »

For the trolls, falling in love only to make babies and not be killed by the Imperial Drone could be the truth. They don't exactly have happy lives in any other aspect, so why not include love?
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Re: MSPA: My Troll Ship Is Better Than Your Troll Ship
« Reply #5234 on: August 11, 2010, 10:39:21 am »

I'm saying he keeps bringing it up like it's the only reason humans fall in love, and therefore is the only context in which we can understand Troll-Love.

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