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[MetalSlimeHunt]

Keep in mind that Draconian Dignitary got the drop on him. Dave's badass, but he's still just a 13-year old with badass equipment. Somthing as simple as a knife to the neck would be fatal.

[Josephus]

He time traveled to his location, which should have allowed Dave to get the drop on him, not the other way around.

Anyway, I don't think Dignitary has Diamonds Droogs' level of experience with time travel yet, which is what would have allowed him to take out that way in the first place. Although it would be pretty cool if that was how he did it - you know, just leaving his knife in the exact place Dave would port into.

[Soadreqm]

Keep in mind that Draconian Dignitary got the drop on him. Dave's badass, but he's still just a 13-year old with badass equipment. Somthing as simple as a knife to the neck would be fatal.

I'm not quite sure about that, actually. They have hit points, remember? It doesn't matter what kind of beating you take, if you still have that blue bar on your head afterwards, you're fine. Well, that hasn't really been consistent. Jack had his arm ripped off. And if you die of your hit points reaching zero, you'll be just as dead as if you would have died from getting your jugular torn open.

As for being beaten by a puppet, well, the puppet was wielded by Bro, AND it's a living nightmare puppet, who CAN teleport around on its own.

[Duke 2.0]

 DD can stab you outside of Strife, thus avoiding that tricky blue bar.

[JoshuaFH]

AND it's a living nightmare puppet, who CAN teleport around on its own.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that was Bro playing a prank on Dave.

[Josephus]

AND it's a living nightmare puppet, who CAN teleport around on its own.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that was Bro playing a prank on Dave.

It was, partly. But Lil Cal is also alive. He was born of Dave's nightmares about Lil Cal, thus existing on Derse in his room. He then arrived on Earth with baby Bro, which he then used to mess with Dave. Dream Cal = Lil Cal.

DD can stab you outside of Strife, thus avoiding that tricky blue bar.

I still prefer the explanation that he's a frighteningly cold customer who is just that good at fighting.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Real or not, Lil Cal is the worst thing to have ever existed. He makes burly russian men cry for mercy.

[Soadreqm]

AND it's a living nightmare puppet, who CAN teleport around on its own.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that was Bro playing a prank on Dave.

It was, partly. But Lil Cal is also alive. He was born of Dave's nightmares about Lil Cal, thus existing on Derse in his room. He then arrived on Earth with baby Bro, which he then used to mess with Dave. Dream Cal = Lil Cal.

Also, Dream Cal can only teleport because Bro was playing pranks on Dave, moving the puppet behind his back, making it seem like it was teleporting, causing Dave to be afraid of the puppet moving on its own. Of all the stable time loops explained so far, this one has to be my favorite.

[dragnar]

Yeah, it's by far the funniest/creepiest one. Lil Cal is a nightmare based on itself.

[Jim Groovester]

All this discussion about Spades Slick has made me wonder something.

Why did Doc Scratch tie the fate of the universe to Snowman's life and death? Lord English is a time traveler, so being able to control the exact moment the universe ends doesn't seem like it confers very many advantages.

[Jackrabbit]

Possibly he'd rather have an audience when it does.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

It's hard to say. I can't figure out if Lord English will show up at the death of one universe or the death of all the universes. Same with what killing Snowman would do, in regards to either one or all.

[Retro]

being able to control the exact moment the universe ends doesn't seem like it confers very many advantages.

You sure? Seems rather advantageous if your master plan to bring yourself into the universe involves the universe dying, even if it's just to avoid the element of random chance. Time traveler or not, some of the exposition during the Doc Scratch sequence noted that part of the First Guardian's role was to manipulate the sequence of events in a way that would bring about the end of the universe and the introduction of Lord English into it. Even if he's already here, the plan still has to be carried out properly.

[Josephus]

being able to control the exact moment the universe ends doesn't seem like it confers very many advantages.

You sure? Seems rather advantageous if your master plan to bring yourself into the universe involves the universe dying, even if it's just to avoid the element of random chance. Time traveler or not, some of the exposition during the Doc Scratch sequence noted that part of the First Guardian's role was to manipulate the sequence of events in a way that would bring about the end of the universe and the introduction of Lord English into it. Even if he's already here, the plan still has to be carried out properly.

I figured it was, yes, Lord English bringing about the end of the universe via the agency of the First Guardians.

Remember, the biggest part of Homestuck so far is stable time loops. Lord English's summoning is already a foregone conclusion, because the universe will end the the code will execute, and he will arrive to feast on the corpse of the universe. The question is how. I think Sburb is furthering that end and allowing that time loop to remain stable, which is why Rose's gatebreaking is a very significant event. Since she's not playing by the rules anymore, perhaps they can prevent Lord English's summoning from occurring at all.

I think a big part of Lord English's interest in maintaining the timeline is displayed in his Cairo Overcoat. It probably exists as a warning to him that all is not right in Paradox Space, possibly interfering with his future summoning.

[eerr]

Why is everybody spazzin over this?