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Author Topic: MSPA Homestuck  (Read 5190051 times)

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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #48180 on: September 06, 2013, 10:06:40 pm »
If you spoiler that, that would probably be a good idea.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #48181 on: September 06, 2013, 10:16:25 pm »
Well, I found an Imgur Mirror of the Update on Reddit.

For those who seek to be pure, and read only from the site, do not click the link contained within this spoiler.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Edit: And the site seems to be working, just very slowly.

Edit: Nope, down again

Spoiler: Discussion of the Update (click to show/hide)

Edit: Site seems to be in flux. I wonder if this problem is sever side in origin or caused by a traffic flux.
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Every dwarf, every dwarven man, women, and child, that comes to our forts will die there; it's truly sad when you think about it. And we ask our selves, why? Why do we push forward, knowing this fate, that we are destined for failure? Because, this game grasps the concept of mortality. Some games you can never lose, but we all stop eventually, causing a 'death' to those game's 'worlds'. Dwarf Fortress gives us a definite end, knowing that we will leave that world eventually, and move on to more.

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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #48182 on: September 06, 2013, 10:28:24 pm »
Site's up.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #48183 on: September 06, 2013, 10:30:34 pm »
And it's down again.
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Every dwarf, every dwarven man, women, and child, that comes to our forts will die there; it's truly sad when you think about it. And we ask our selves, why? Why do we push forward, knowing this fate, that we are destined for failure? Because, this game grasps the concept of mortality. Some games you can never lose, but we all stop eventually, causing a 'death' to those game's 'worlds'. Dwarf Fortress gives us a definite end, knowing that we will leave that world eventually, and move on to more.

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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #48184 on: September 06, 2013, 10:30:50 pm »
No it's not.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #48185 on: September 06, 2013, 11:49:39 pm »
All good for me.

Aranea's frightening me somewhat.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #48186 on: September 06, 2013, 11:55:56 pm »
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Every dwarf, every dwarven man, women, and child, that comes to our forts will die there; it's truly sad when you think about it. And we ask our selves, why? Why do we push forward, knowing this fate, that we are destined for failure? Because, this game grasps the concept of mortality. Some games you can never lose, but we all stop eventually, causing a 'death' to those game's 'worlds'. Dwarf Fortress gives us a definite end, knowing that we will leave that world eventually, and move on to more.

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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #48187 on: September 06, 2013, 11:57:21 pm »
I believe the opposite of grimdark is noblebright.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #48188 on: September 07, 2013, 12:16:40 am »
Shit, it is, isn't it?
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #48189 on: September 07, 2013, 12:18:15 am »
Stupid idea: Why don't Aranea off Jake and so that he can have his powers grow in millions of sweep in the Furthest Ring, and then she'll revive him up later?
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #48190 on: September 07, 2013, 12:20:56 am »
God tier.

Just or heroic, or else rezz.
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I can do anything I want, as long as I accept the consequences.
"Y'know, my favorite thing about being a hero is that it gives you all kinds of narrative justification to just slay any ol' jerk who gets in the way - Black Mage.
"The bulk of [Derm]'s atrocities seem to stem from him doing things that [Magic] doesn't actually do." - TvTropes
"Dammit Derm!" - You, if I'm doing it right.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #48191 on: September 07, 2013, 12:21:16 am »
Resurrection is probably beyond her abilities, on account of not being Life-aspected, and she needs the ring for herself. Also, she'd have to make Jake's death heroic (just is unlikely) in order to make it stick. Also, since she's trying to break the Alpha Timeline, she can't count on his personal timeline post-death in the dream bubbles lasting long enough by the time she encounters him again, if she ever did at all. Ordinarily, you could count on exactly that sort of non-symmetrical passage of time happening because it was destined to happen. Not so for Aranea's scheme.
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

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« Reply #48192 on: September 07, 2013, 01:02:49 am »
Anyone else getting the feeling that Aranea is really ludicrously powerful? She may actually be able to break the alpha timeline, assuming John's influence doesn't throw a wrench into her plans.

From a literary standpoint, the idea of characters rebelling against the themes and rules of the story that contains them intrigues me. If Hussie pulls this off well, it may make for a really interesting denouement.
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« Reply #48193 on: September 07, 2013, 06:37:41 am »
This is really weird, and I bet the Jake we get out of it will still be insufferable, just in a different way.
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« Reply #48194 on: September 07, 2013, 11:41:53 am »
Magical Hotfixes have been a recurring theme in Act 6, and the main tone was, unsurprisingly, that they don't really work.

Aranea will probably leave Jake a husk. A heroic, noble and fearless... near-empty husk, with deep, crippling cracks wherever her Light doesn't reach. And we saw already that there is a lot of weird shit hidden under Mr. English's flat, unpolished surface, enough shit to hide a whole Dirk Strider in.

Jake's actual spiritual journey, rite of adulthood, heroic ascension, Super-Sayanhood and all that might be in shedding his healing, in crawling back into the hole, in becoming not the hero his friends deserve, but the slightly less superficial asshole they need.

OK, and then there is at least a 33% chance that the next panel is just standard Jake, whose personality problems turn out bigger than anything Aranea could throw at him.

Quote from: armeggedonCounselor on September 07, 2013, 01:02:49 am
Anyone else getting the feeling that Aranea is really ludicrously powerful? She may actually be able to break the alpha timeline, assuming John's influence doesn't throw a wrench into her plans.
Aranea is mainly ludicrously well informed.  That is her whole shtick. It won't help her though, if the things she told Meenah are her real plan.

LE controls the entanglement of causality that forms Paradox Space. If Aranea escapes him by hijacking a beta-timeline that does not include his creation and actually keeping it alive, he, as a Lord of Time, most probably can easily invade it and rip everything in it apart out of sheer malice. His existence would not be invalidated, even if Aranea really can keep the offshoot timeline running indefinitely, because the Alpha timeline has to exist to close the loops.

Quote from: armeggedonCounselor on September 07, 2013, 01:02:49 am
From a literary standpoint, the idea of characters rebelling against the themes and rules of the story that contains them intrigues me. If Hussie pulls this off well, it may make for a really interesting denouement.
We will see. I don't claim I can predict anything, but this might be just a somewhat elegant way to showcase the true power of either LE or HIC before the final battle starts. And to move some Chekhovian cannons into firing position.
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