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Author Topic: MSPA Homestuck  (Read 5186198 times)

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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #45825 on: March 15, 2013, 09:46:57 am »

New album.

Still no Eternity's Shylock, although Eternity Served Cold is close enough.

It's the same pattern as always. A piece of music is refined for the album release. Think of "Black Rose / Green Sun", or maybe "Mutiny" if you remember the old days. "Eternity Served Cold" is "Eternity's Shylock", longer and under a new name. I think some people complained about the name "Eternity's Shylock" because Shylock, the evil jewish moneylender from William Shakespeare's "The Merchant of Venice", was a negative stereotype? I remember reading some blog posts about it.

But... "Black Rose / Green Sun" was made for Vol 7, then remixed into "Black Hole / Green Sun" for Cascade, then that was released on Vol 8. If the original version of Eternity's Shylock doesn't make it onto an album, that'll be unprecedented.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #45826 on: March 15, 2013, 01:36:36 pm »

New album.

Still no Eternity's Shylock, although Eternity Served Cold is close enough.

It's the same pattern as always. A piece of music is refined for the album release. Think of "Black Rose / Green Sun", or maybe "Mutiny" if you remember the old days. "Eternity Served Cold" is "Eternity's Shylock", longer and under a new name. I think some people complained about the name "Eternity's Shylock" because Shylock, the evil jewish moneylender from William Shakespeare's "The Merchant of Venice", was a negative stereotype? I remember reading some blog posts about it.

But... "Black Rose / Green Sun" was made for Vol 7, then remixed into "Black Hole / Green Sun" for Cascade, then that was released on Vol 8. If the original version of Eternity's Shylock doesn't make it onto an album, that'll be unprecedented.

http://mspaforums.com/showthread.php?49678-Homestuck-Music-Discussion-V-CHERUBIM&p=7076412&viewfull=1#post7076412

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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #45827 on: March 15, 2013, 01:39:25 pm »

Well... unprecedented or not, I guess that's how it is.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #45828 on: March 15, 2013, 01:49:02 pm »

Just listened to both at the same time.

The difference is that there isn't one. Eternity Served Cold is named differently and longer. That's pretty much it.

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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #45829 on: March 15, 2013, 02:05:50 pm »

FuzzyZergling, you lied to us. Look what you created.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #45830 on: March 15, 2013, 02:36:49 pm »

But... "Black Rose / Green Sun" was made for Vol 7, then remixed into "Black Hole / Green Sun" for Cascade, then that was released on Vol 8. If the original version of Eternity's Shylock doesn't make it onto an album, that'll be unprecedented.

Nope. 8)

As for unprecedented, the original Mutiny was an incomplete preview, and flowed quite differently from the one that got on the disc. Both versions got taken down when Bolin left the music team, but I'm sure they're on Youtube. Speaking of Youtube, you can always just put on your CYBERPUNK GOGGLES and get a bootleg of the version that's on the flash. Or, if your goggles are sufficiently fancy, extract it from the flash yourself. :P
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #45831 on: March 15, 2013, 03:40:42 pm »

FuzzyZergling, you lied to us. Look what you created.
I dunno, I still hear a difference.
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« Reply #45832 on: March 15, 2013, 05:21:24 pm »

I think we're all avoiding the major issue here, which is...

Why the hell are there meows in The Lordling? Isn't that Nepeta's thing?
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« Reply #45833 on: March 15, 2013, 05:53:33 pm »

I think we're all avoiding the major issue here, which is...

Why the hell are there meows in The Lordling? Isn't that Nepeta's thing?

It's also Roxy's thing.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #45834 on: March 15, 2013, 10:10:45 pm »

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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #45835 on: March 15, 2013, 10:42:58 pm »

There we go, a proper billiards metaphor for the origin of the Felt.
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« Reply #45836 on: March 15, 2013, 10:48:14 pm »

Oh, look, billiards. Another nail-in-the-coffin for the "Caliborn isn't Lord English" crowd.

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« Reply #45837 on: March 15, 2013, 10:51:28 pm »

I think some people complained about the name "Eternity's Shylock" because Shylock, the evil jewish moneylender from William Shakespeare's "The Merchant of Venice", was a negative stereotype? I remember reading some blog posts about it.

That's it. I officially hate everyone now.


Speaking of Eternity Served Cold, I have the sneaking suspicion that the portion cut out (pun intended) to make Eternity's Shylock will yet end up seeing use if that guy's 'Jake gets decapitated and Caliborn takes over the body' theory turns out to be correct. It'd be perfect for that scene.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #45838 on: March 15, 2013, 10:52:05 pm »

Oh, look, billiards. Another nail-in-the-coffin for the "Caliborn isn't Lord English" crowd.
I would hardly call one guy with a tumblr blog a 'crowd'...

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Re: MSPA Homestuck
« Reply #45839 on: March 15, 2013, 11:06:18 pm »

I think some people complained about the name "Eternity's Shylock" because Shylock, the evil jewish moneylender from William Shakespeare's "The Merchant of Venice", was a negative stereotype? I remember reading some blog posts about it.

Odd, since I could have sworn that he's mostly portrayed sympathetically nowadays.
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