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[FuzzyZergling]

I used to think that LE couldn't be Caliborn, it was just too obvious and there wasn't any explicit in-comic connection, but then the evidence started piling up and the characters started refering to them as the same, so now I'm convinced.

[Teneb]

I used to think that LE couldn't be Caliborn, it was just too obvious and there wasn't any explicit in-comic connection, but then the evidence started piling up and the characters started refering to them as the same, so now I'm convinced.

I'd like to note that Caliborn himself claims to be the master of red herrings. Unless that claim was a red herring itself. Hm...

[FuzzyZergling]

I used to think that LE couldn't be Caliborn, it was just too obvious and there wasn't any explicit in-comic connection, but then the evidence started piling up and the characters started refering to them as the same, so now I'm convinced.

I'd like to note that Caliborn himself claims to be the master of red herrings. Unless that claim was a red herring itself. Hm...

That's exactly what I thought!
But now I don't.

[Urist Imiknorris]

Yeah, I'm reminded of the chess game between Calliope and Caliborn, and how he disguised the king and queen as each other.

[penguinofhonor]

While I mostly just enjoy the ride and don't overthink the plot, I must agree with the LE isn't caliborn in the flesh theory.
I don't see how or why caliborn would get the cueball eyes, whereas we've already seen that they signify his mind controle powers. What I would like to know  then though is who or what was LE before he got mind controlled, if he wasn"t at one point. If there are multiple instances of LE spawning from scratch clearly he was somehow planted there, likely on purpose. By whom and for what purpose then.

Why would the Condesce have the Taurus/Scorpio mind control symbols on her here if she was the one doing the mind controlling? Clearly that shows someone else is mind controlling her.

[Graknorke]

While I mostly just enjoy the ride and don't overthink the plot, I must agree with the LE isn't caliborn in the flesh theory.
I don't see how or why caliborn would get the cueball eyes, whereas we've already seen that they signify his mind controle powers. What I would like to know  then though is who or what was LE before he got mind controlled, if he wasn"t at one point. If there are multiple instances of LE spawning from scratch clearly he was somehow planted there, likely on purpose. By whom and for what purpose then.

Why would the Condesce have the Taurus/Scorpio mind control symbols on her here if she was the one doing the mind controlling? Clearly that shows someone else is mind controlling her.

Because mind control powers are represented that way; some of the time. Like in Make Her Pay.

[Putnam]

While I mostly just enjoy the ride and don't overthink the plot, I must agree with the LE isn't caliborn in the flesh theory.
I don't see how or why caliborn would get the cueball eyes, whereas we've already seen that they signify his mind controle powers. What I would like to know  then though is who or what was LE before he got mind controlled, if he wasn"t at one point. If there are multiple instances of LE spawning from scratch clearly he was somehow planted there, likely on purpose. By whom and for what purpose then.

Why would the Condesce have the Taurus/Scorpio mind control symbols on her here if she was the one doing the mind controlling? Clearly that shows someone else is mind controlling her.

because it usually represents people using mind control powers that way...

[Darvi]

And because it's implied that she hijacked those powers.

[penguinofhonor]

I know, I was sarcastically responding to the "why does LE have LE mind control eyes unless he's being mind controlled". It could be that he's the source of it, therefore he and anyone he's controlling has the eyes.

[Teneb]

I know, I was sarcastically responding to the "why does LE have LE mind control eyes unless he's being mind controlled". It could be that he's the source of it, therefore he and anyone he's controlling has the eyes.

Caliborn didn't have the LE eyes when controlling Jack, however. Also, it was shown that Jack stabbed out his own eyes and placed the pool balls in the sockets.

[Graknorke]

I know that the eye stabbing was in some way related to something that happened before.
I have seen it. I remember the absurdity of something or other with knives in their eyes; and it was Homestuck related. Unfortunately I can't remember what.

[Putnam]

I know that the eye stabbing was in some way related to something that happened before.
I have seen it. I remember the absurdity of something or other with knives in their eyes; and it was Homestuck related. Unfortunately I can't remember what.

http://bladekindeyewear.tumblr.com/

Dr. McNinja also this Homestuck theorizer guy.

[Bauglir]

I know, I was sarcastically responding to the "why does LE have LE mind control eyes unless he's being mind controlled". It could be that he's the source of it, therefore he and anyone he's controlling has the eyes.

Caliborn didn't have the LE eyes when controlling Jack, however. Also, it was shown that Jack stabbed out his own eyes and placed the pool balls in the sockets.

I'm unconvinced that Caliborn was controlling Jack - there's been no indication that he's setting in motion events to lead to his own ascendance yet, or that he's even aware of enough of the causality involved to do so. He's certainly not insightful enough to figure it out from whatever moments he's observed through his many screens. It's possible that he is, but I feel like that it's likelier that the scene had more to do with emphasizing Caliborn's connection to Cal and the havoc he will one day be able to wreak through Cal than it did with communicating that Caliborn knew enough to know that he needed to make Jack blow up the moon at that particular moment and that he had the powers necessary to do so across timelines. If nothing else, that moon-destroying beam of power was way beyond anything Caliborn's been suggested to be capable of at that point.

What, exactly, happened to Jack, I don't know. I don't know if he's driven into a blind rage or being mind controlled or what, but I'm fairly certain Caliborn, at the point in time we saw him during that scene, wasn't Assuming Direct Control.

[Solifuge]

Random plot revelation #12:

Vriska, the Thief of Light, is about to capture (or destroy) the Green Sun by having Lord English break it out of paradox space.

[Liber celi]

Vriska being the Porky to LE's Giygas? Well, somebody has to be it. Probably the Condesce, though.

(Unserious theory: When Dave breaks Caliborn like a shitty sword, he then wields the corpse as "Excaliborn".)

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