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Max White

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Re: MSPA Homestuck: what do you think Zach?
« Reply #36090 on: March 16, 2012, 12:00:55 pm »

Where are you reading this? I thought she didn't even know about trolls... We are talking about GG right?

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Re: MSPA Homestuck: what do you think Zach?
« Reply #36091 on: March 16, 2012, 12:01:33 pm »

Pffff...

Wait, we're missing something vital and obvious.

Who the fuck created GCAT?
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: what do you think Zach?
« Reply #36092 on: March 16, 2012, 12:03:06 pm »

The Dersites, as always. Taking time shit into account, most likely before the Condesce came to Derse, but after she came to Earth.

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Re: MSPA Homestuck: what do you think Zach?
« Reply #36093 on: March 16, 2012, 12:04:03 pm »

Wait is this a typo
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ROSE: It seems that two of the new players arrived four centuries ahead of everyone else.
ROSE: For some bizarre reason.
Shouldn't they be arriving centuries BEHIND the others?
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: what do you think Zach?
« Reply #36094 on: March 16, 2012, 12:05:27 pm »

The Dersites, as always. Taking time shit into account, most likely before the Condesce came to Derse, but after she came to Earth.
Can't be. No reckoning = no 1st Guardian from that session.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: what do you think Zach?
« Reply #36095 on: March 16, 2012, 12:05:41 pm »

Okay, it works like this. Lets assume the condesce went into the past to conquer the post-scratch session. This could be enough for a scratch, especially in the absence of ectobiology.

She goes back in time, builds her empire, other things happen. Sufferer and Summoner do the same thing, to try and stop her, but too little too late.

Condesce goes on to take stuff over. Basic time loop logic fills in everything else. Including her younger years - she's not a fish out of water, she's filling a role that she'll ultimately prep for herself. To others, it looks like she had a normal childhood and then SUDDENLY SHE KNOWS THIS WEIRD STUFF. That normal childhood was the result of the time loop trying to assert itself. In fact, the Condesce might probably even be changed by the experiencing, having both sets of memories.

Same for the sufferer. At some point, he heads back in time and hits himself. Pre-scratch mingled with the determined attempts of loop consistancy by post scratch. The post scratch session eventually justifies this somehow, internally, but the impetus, the reason, was the collision of these pre scratch trolls.

And then it happens again with god-tier Tavros ancestor.

Eventually the younger kids arrive, having sent themselves back, and also their ancestors. The ancestors in an attempt by the timeline to stabilize itself internally and independently from the pre-scratch session.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: what do you think Zach?
« Reply #36096 on: March 16, 2012, 12:06:05 pm »

Just because the reckoning didn't happen doesn't mean that portals didn't happen.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: what do you think Zach?
« Reply #36097 on: March 16, 2012, 12:07:03 pm »

Okay, it works like this. Lets assume the condesce went into the past to conquer the post-scratch session. This could be enough for a scratch, especially in the absence of ectobiology.

She goes back in time, builds her empire, other things happen. Sufferer and Summoner do the same thing, to try and stop her, but too little too late.

Condesce goes on to take stuff over. Basic time loop logic fills in everything else. Including her younger years - she's not a fish out of water, she's filling a role that she'll ultimately prep for herself. To others, it looks like she had a normal childhood and then SUDDENLY SHE KNOWS THIS WEIRD STUFF. That normal childhood was the result of the time loop trying to assert itself. In fact, the Condesce might probably even be changed by the experiencing, having both sets of memories.

Same for the sufferer. At some point, he heads back in time and hits himself. Pre-scratch mingled with the determined attempts of loop consistancy by post scratch. The post scratch session eventually justifies this somehow, internally, but the impetus, the reason, was the collision of these pre scratch trolls.

And then it happens again with god-tier Tavros ancestor.

Eventually the younger kids arrive, having sent themselves back, and also their ancestors. The ancestors in an attempt by the timeline to stabilize itself internally and independently from the pre-scratch session.
Could work, except she would have to kill her post-scratch self. Which I could see her doing.

Just because the reckoning didn't happen doesn't mean that portals didn't happen.
Yes it does.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: what do you think Zach?
« Reply #36098 on: March 16, 2012, 12:07:15 pm »

The Dersites, as always. Taking time shit into account, most likely before the Condesce came to Derse, but after she came to Earth.
Can't be. No reckoning = no 1st Guardian from that session.
Why not?

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Re: MSPA Homestuck: what do you think Zach?
« Reply #36099 on: March 16, 2012, 12:07:26 pm »

Especially since the portals clearly DID happen.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: what do you think Zach?
« Reply #36100 on: March 16, 2012, 12:07:52 pm »

The Dersites, as always. Taking time shit into account, most likely before the Condesce came to Derse, but after she came to Earth.
Can't be. No reckoning = no 1st Guardian from that session.
Why not?
Just because the reckoning didn't happen doesn't mean that portals didn't happen.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: what do you think Zach?
« Reply #36101 on: March 16, 2012, 12:08:09 pm »

No reckoning = no portals to keep the meteors from skaia = no GCAT from that session.


Maybe FF made him?
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: what do you think Zach?
« Reply #36102 on: March 16, 2012, 12:10:17 pm »

Except it was already stated that there WERE portals.

Example: Frog Temple.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: what do you think Zach?
« Reply #36103 on: March 16, 2012, 12:11:01 pm »

Wouldn't no portals mean no frog temple? But look at Jake's island. Meteors still fall through portals without the reckoning, just instead of being summoned by the black king, something else throws them off.

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Re: MSPA Homestuck: what do you think Zach?
« Reply #36104 on: March 16, 2012, 12:11:34 pm »

It hasn't been stated that is was from that session, though.
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