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Re: MSPA Homestuck: letmegiveyouabon
« Reply #33435 on: December 30, 2011, 09:00:51 am »
They also have the same DNA.

But yeah, they definitely don't have the same experiences.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: letmegiveyouabon
« Reply #33436 on: December 30, 2011, 09:09:04 am »
I'm pretty sure that they are exactly the same, genetics-wise.  Since the scratch flips players and ancestors, it wouldn't make much sense for her to be someone completely different.  As far as memories go, they're probably two separate entities, but the fact that they seem to share personalities with their Beta counterparts is a bit odd.  Maybe the scratch doesn't reset absolutely everything, or they maintain some kind of link to their other selves, like with Davesprite's Rose and Beta Rose, or with the Sufferer.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: letmegiveyouabon
« Reply #33437 on: December 30, 2011, 09:44:02 am »
Anyone here use pesterchum?
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: letmegiveyouabon
« Reply #33438 on: December 30, 2011, 09:45:16 am »
Plenty. Check the Homestuck forum games.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: letmegiveyouabon
« Reply #33439 on: December 30, 2011, 09:46:25 am »
I mean for actual talking.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: letmegiveyouabon
« Reply #33440 on: December 30, 2011, 10:17:17 am »
Note that prospit is missing the prototyping towers in the flash.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: letmegiveyouabon
« Reply #33441 on: December 30, 2011, 11:38:54 am »
No, Jane and Jake are not related.
For example in the scratch universe it's Mom and Bro who are the parents of Dave and Rose, and... well... Jane and Jake are involved somewhere with John and Jade.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: letmegiveyouabon
« Reply #33442 on: December 30, 2011, 11:52:40 am »
Quote from: Powder Miner on December 30, 2011, 11:38:54 am
No, Jane and Jake are not related.
For example in the scratch universe it's Mom and Bro who are the parents of Dave and Rose, and... well... Jane and Jake are involved somewhere with John and Jade.

Since John and Jade + Rose and Dave are made from the mixed genetic material of their respective parents, and it's implied that the complete opposite happened in the scratch universe, does that make everyone their own grandpa/ma?
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: letmegiveyouabon
« Reply #33443 on: December 30, 2011, 01:16:22 pm »
Quote from: JoshuaFH on December 30, 2011, 11:52:40 am
Quote from: Powder Miner on December 30, 2011, 11:38:54 am
No, Jane and Jake are not related.
For example in the scratch universe it's Mom and Bro who are the parents of Dave and Rose, and... well... Jane and Jake are involved somewhere with John and Jade.

Since John and Jade + Rose and Dave are made from the mixed genetic material of their respective parents, and it's implied that the complete opposite happened in the scratch universe, does that make everyone their own grandpa/ma?
No, because I don't think it's implied that that's the case. The implication seems to be that these are the same guardians created in the kids' session. Note that PostScratch John still had the book that Nannasprite wrote a note in, which makes no sense in the PostScratch session. That means that these players are just clones of themselves, genetically.
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“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: letmegiveyouabon
« Reply #33444 on: December 30, 2011, 01:20:41 pm »
Quote from: Bauglir on December 30, 2011, 01:16:22 pm
Quote from: JoshuaFH on December 30, 2011, 11:52:40 am
Quote from: Powder Miner on December 30, 2011, 11:38:54 am
No, Jane and Jake are not related.
For example in the scratch universe it's Mom and Bro who are the parents of Dave and Rose, and... well... Jane and Jake are involved somewhere with John and Jade.

Since John and Jade + Rose and Dave are made from the mixed genetic material of their respective parents, and it's implied that the complete opposite happened in the scratch universe, does that make everyone their own grandpa/ma?
No, because I don't think it's implied that that's the case. The implication seems to be that these are the same guardians created in the kids' session. Note that PostScratch John still had the book that Nannasprite wrote a note in, which makes no sense in the PostScratch session. That means that these players are just clones of themselves, genetically.

I do find it funny that it's more plausible for a character to be a clone of himself than it is to be their own grandpa.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: letmegiveyouabon
« Reply #33445 on: December 30, 2011, 01:22:11 pm »
Quote from: JoshuaFH on December 30, 2011, 11:52:40 am
Quote from: Powder Miner on December 30, 2011, 11:38:54 am
No, Jane and Jake are not related.
For example in the scratch universe it's Mom and Bro who are the parents of Dave and Rose, and... well... Jane and Jake are involved somewhere with John and Jade.

Since John and Jade + Rose and Dave are made from the mixed genetic material of their respective parents, and it's implied that the complete opposite happened in the scratch universe, does that make everyone their own grandpa/ma?
It has not yet been revealed.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: letmegiveyouabon
« Reply #33446 on: December 30, 2011, 01:23:45 pm »
Quote from: JoshuaFH on December 30, 2011, 01:20:41 pm
Quote from: Bauglir on December 30, 2011, 01:16:22 pm
Quote from: JoshuaFH on December 30, 2011, 11:52:40 am
Quote from: Powder Miner on December 30, 2011, 11:38:54 am
No, Jane and Jake are not related.
For example in the scratch universe it's Mom and Bro who are the parents of Dave and Rose, and... well... Jane and Jake are involved somewhere with John and Jade.

Since John and Jade + Rose and Dave are made from the mixed genetic material of their respective parents, and it's implied that the complete opposite happened in the scratch universe, does that make everyone their own grandpa/ma?
No, because I don't think it's implied that that's the case. The implication seems to be that these are the same guardians created in the kids' session. Note that PostScratch John still had the book that Nannasprite wrote a note in, which makes no sense in the PostScratch session. That means that these players are just clones of themselves, genetically.

I do find it funny that it's more plausible for a character to be a clone of himself than it is to be their own grandpa.
Yup. Although, I also expect to somehow be proven thoroughly wrong. It's this story, after all. There's no doubt some key detail that I'm overlooking, and which will only make sense in hindsight. Oh, but this also would suggest that this universe, too, is marked for Lord English.
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

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Re: MSPA Homestuck: letmegiveyouabon
« Reply #33447 on: December 30, 2011, 01:27:49 pm »
I heard somewhere that the trolls were their own ancestors' "parents". Wouldn't surprise me if, say, Jane and Jake were still John and Jades parents despite being chronologically younger than them.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: letmegiveyouabon
« Reply #33448 on: December 30, 2011, 03:49:15 pm »
They mean it in a Metaphorical sense. Genetics-wise the Ancestors are technically the Trolls... well Ancestors.
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Re: MSPA Homestuck: letmegiveyouabon
« Reply #33449 on: December 30, 2011, 03:51:42 pm »
http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002704

Reading through Homestuck again- and hahahahahahahaha this is actually true.
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