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[Aqizzar]

So, you say you want a moral tipping point do you?  You want a point of no return?

Do you really want it?

Okay, yu'got it!

[Lofn]

Unless it turns out that this was necessary for the dream quest or some arbitrary bollocks.  I hope it doesn't.

[Sowelu]

I don't see why Jack would be cooperating, unless he's being played too.  Which seems a little too plausible.  There's an awful lot of playing going on here.

[Luke_Prowler]

I know I'm not suppose to fall into Hussie's trolling but: AAAAAAAAARRGH! Death to the blue blood one!

[Myroc]

Yeah, I'm going to go join Duke at the Vriska Hate Club. This isn't just a normal Moral Event Horizon, this was enough evil to break the Moral Event Horizon, loop around to the opposite end because of the sheer amount, and still have enough evil left to break it again. I feel somewhat envious.

[ECrownofFire]

I don't see why Jack would be cooperating, unless he's being played too.  Which seems a little too plausible.  There's an awful lot of playing going on here.

There's one of the players, completely vulnerable sleeping there, with zero chance to fight back. What do you do as Jack?

[Sowelu]

Well, yeah, but...I dunno.  I'm just surprised that there's lines of communication between Vriska and Jack that would let her drop him hints, and that he would trust her not to trick him somehow.

[lordnincompoop]

Read the update.

Fucking Vriska, augh.

Space for one more, guys?

[ECrownofFire]

Who said she had to communicate with Jack? I'm kind of assuming John was asleep for a while, and that Quest Bed is kind of a damn obvious place to be.

Plus, there's the whole "might be omniscient" thing. Though I think Hussie specifically said that Jack wasn't, in Formspring.

[Soadreqm]

Oh come on. She just had John killed. Karkat said this would happen. He warned you about Vriska, bro. He told you, dog. This isn't some surprising twist that suddenly shows that Vriska was evil all along. Vriska kills people. Get over it. Well, this time she didn't even do all that much. John wouldn't have stood a chance against Jack even if he was awake. Maybe Vriska somehow dropped him a hint, too? She's been nudging the Midnight Crew to the right direction before. Remember the Meowcode incident.

Anyway, this probably was necessary for John to start advancing the god tiers or whatever. The conversation just before foreshadows the crap out of that.

AG: It would have 8een nice if someone was around to explain all this to me, and let me have some control over my own f8.
AG: I had to do this a much less pleasant way. I'm sparing you that indignity.

Vriska awakened when she was beaten to death by Aradia. The choice of words reminded me of that too. "Control over my own f8."

[PenguinOverlord]

John has a dreamself.
Also, meowcode still exists, so Rose is going to be down a dreamself, too, and to no affect.

[Urist Imiknorris]

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT ALL ABOUT.

Happy Day 612, I guess.

[GlyphGryph]

Clearly, dying and becoming your dreamself is what unlocks the god tiers.

And I believe that Sollux did this twice - does this mean he was not only the first to get the god tiers, but that he also got more of them?

Which means Terezi has killed john, Vriska has killed both of them - now we just need Terezi to kill Dave and Karkat's prediction (comment? memory?) will come true.

[Urist Imiknorris]

How did Vriska kill Dave?

[Lofn]

She nudged DD into stealing the meowcode and by extension got one Dave killed.