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[alway]

I can program but I have no idea at all about DF memory hacking/reading.

This. The big problem atm isn't so much the actual code as the integration of the new way the data is stored/used/whatever in DF.

[MagicGuigz]

If anybody can do the memory hacking, I might be able to invest a little time to improve interface, new creatures, etc.  Still, I strongly suggest waiting for the merge.

[Rose]

easiest way would probably be to make a DFhack version.

[tea_mug]

Apparently it's free for anyone to pick up though...
https://sourceforge.net/projects/visualfortress/

I don't see any files there. Is this true for everyone, or just me?

Looking at the project feed allows me to find http://visualfortress.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/visualfortress/, and of that, it looks like ProcessPeek/ is the folder holding the code Baboonanza uses for the memory hacking.  I'm not certain, though - confirmation would be appreciated.

I'll poke at it again after the merge, but I make no promises; I suspect this is beyond the scope of my abilities.

[James.Denholm]

easiest way would probably be to make a DFhack version.

Funny how people just seem to ignore the easy path, huh? It's like their eyes just slliiiiide right over them...

[Sizik]

easiest way would probably be to make a DFhack version.

Funny how people just seem to ignore the easy path, huh? It's like their eyes just slliiiiide right over them...

To be fair, VF was released before DFHack.

[andrewas]

I got r49 compiled last night. It mostly works, but if anyone wants to work on getting it to read DF2010, r12 or r20 are probably better starting points.

EDIT] After playing with it a bit more and getting the textures to load the right way up, r49 is looking more attractive. But it still needs a fair bit of work before it looks good with shaders on, and its broken with shaders off. Is there an OpenGL guru in the house?

[Djohaal]

I got r49 compiled last night. It mostly works, but if anyone wants to work on getting it to read DF2010, r12 or r20 are probably better starting points.

EDIT] After playing with it a bit more and getting the textures to load the right way up, r49 is looking more attractive. But it still needs a fair bit of work before it looks good with shaders on, and its broken with shaders off. Is there an OpenGL guru in the house?

Actually I wonder if we could export the genarated file to a common 3d data file (ie, .obj, .3ds, etc) and import it to a proper 3d program. I'd love to try rendering my fort on a real software renderer like 3dsmax, would make some fancy shots.

[Wolenber]

If we could get file output working, that would be amazing. Hell, do some resizing and you would have yourself some fun FPS maps to play on.

[Armok]

I got r49 compiled last night. It mostly works, but if anyone wants to work on getting it to read DF2010, r12 or r20 are probably better starting points.

EDIT] After playing with it a bit more and getting the textures to load the right way up, r49 is looking more attractive. But it still needs a fair bit of work before it looks good with shaders on, and its broken with shaders off. Is there an OpenGL guru in the house?

Actually I wonder if we could export the genarated file to a common 3d data file (ie, .obj, .3ds, etc) and import it to a proper 3d program. I'd love to try rendering my fort on a real software renderer like 3dsmax, would make some fancy shots.

Seconded!

[Squirrelloid]

I don't care what you do so long as it works =)

Actually, I'd offer to help, but I know nothing about coding graphics-related things.

[Andreus]

Any updates on this?

[Retro]

Any updates on this?

If there were, you'd see them in the thread. Sadly, nobody with serious programming know-how seems to have taken up the mantle. We can only hope someone starts up a new non-isometric visualizer for the new version from scratch.

[Mel_Vixen]

I recently got some textbooks on OpenGl (i have some experience with C++, Assembler etc. but didnt get around to learn OGL) and associated stuff so i can give it a look - i dont take any mantle thought.

The problem is to work yourself into a not (or not well) documented program. That said i take a look anyway but dont expect results anytime soon.

[andrewas]

OpenGL is just half the problem, and might not be a problem at all if you work from an older revision of the program - the latest version appears to be half way towards the next version. The new features are nice, I got the frustum culling fixed, the shadowmaps are extremely broken, and nothing I've played with so far even touches the real issue - getting map data from DF2010 rather than 40d, probably via DFhack.