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[kenken244]

Here's a little picture of my fort-in-progress:

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[Jay]

It's shots like that that remind me just how damned accurate DF's geology is.
Look at those layers!

[Timst]

So, how is the development of the next version (with the workshops and all) doing ?

[Techhead]

Was that built on a river?

[Deon]

Fix the fortification-wall transition please (fortifications which are on top of a wall make adjacent walls to be transparent).

[Andir]

It's shots like that that remind me just how damned accurate DF's geology is.
Look at those layers!

I know it's pedantic, but I wouldn't say accurate.  I'd give DF an award if it managed to handle plate tectonics properly by lifting and smashing layers together.  Currently it just kind of cheats by determining how close to the air the material is and uses some "cheap" smoothing algorithms if I recall correctly.  If/when I can see vertical/diagonal layers, then we'll talk about accuracy.

[Hungry]

Follow up of problem...posted earlier...

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* C:\Users\robert\Documents\DF\VisualFortress.exe 20.09.2009 16:48:53, user: robert

Shaders enabled
Vertical sync disabled
Anisotropic filtering level 16
Loading vertex shader 'Default.vert'
Loading fragment shader 'MatGlossBlend.frag'
Loading vertex shader 'Billboard.vert'
Loading fragment shader 'Billboard.frag'
Loading vertex shader 'Sky.vert'
Loading fragment shader 'Sky.frag'
Loading fragment shader 'AlphaDiscard.frag'
Loading fragment shader 'Default.frag'
Loading vertex shader 'DepthOnly.vert'
Loading fragment shader 'DepthOnly.frag'
Version v0.28.181.40d16 detected
Invalid vtable entry for multiclass 'workshop' in version v0.28.181.40d9
Invalid vtable entry for multiclass 'siege engine' in version v0.28.181.40d9
Invalid vtable entry for multiclass 'furnace' in version v0.28.181.40d9
Invalid vtable entry for multiclass 'mechanism' in version v0.28.181.40d9
Reading map with size (48, 48, 50)
Reading material information...
Matgloss type 1 read. 230 total
Matgloss type 2 read. 26 total
Preparing to read map...
Reading geological info...
Reading blocks...
Map loading, beginning 3D initialization
Creating Imposters...
FBO created (2048, 2048, depth_rbo)
RenderTexture 'ImposterRenderTexture0' created
RenderTexture 'ImposterRenderTexture1' created
ImposterCollection built -
    Target size: 2048
    Target count: 2
    Mesh count: 64
FBO destroyed
Initialising geometry pager...
Creating geometry...
Transferring geometry to GPU...

[alway]

So, how is the development of the next version (with the workshops and all) doing ?

Rule #1 of software development: Don't ask when it will be done unless you enjoy hearing "soon."

My current fort is why I want a 2x2 square of ramps to be pyramid shaped. I am building pyramids, and have cannot finish the top properly without them. Here's a pic:

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[Bricks]

Very cool, almay.  Even without the pointy tops, it looks good.  Are those pyramids solid, hollow, or inhabited?

[Tack]

Damn... only way I can think of is to make them a tile wider on two sides. That's going to be a lot of work.

[Arkose]

It's shots like that that remind me just how damned accurate DF's geology is.
Look at those layers!

I know it's pedantic, but I wouldn't say accurate.  I'd give DF an award if it managed to handle plate tectonics properly by lifting and smashing layers together.  Currently it just kind of cheats by determining how close to the air the material is and uses some "cheap" smoothing algorithms if I recall correctly.  If/when I can see vertical/diagonal layers, then we'll talk about accuracy.

Plate tectonics would be cool for world-gen, but I think at the fortress level just having local-scale synclines, anticlines and fault discontinuities in the rock layers would be enough to make the structural geologists giddy. Come on, Toady, don't leave all the fun for the mineralogists, petrologists, volcanologists, glaciologists and soil scientists! Geology is way more than just that! 

[Jay]

It's shots like that that remind me just how damned accurate DF's geology is.
Look at those layers!

I know it's pedantic, but I wouldn't say accurate.  I'd give DF an award if it managed to handle plate tectonics properly by lifting and smashing layers together.  Currently it just kind of cheats by determining how close to the air the material is and uses some "cheap" smoothing algorithms if I recall correctly.  If/when I can see vertical/diagonal layers, then we'll talk about accuracy.

Plate tectonics would be cool for world-gen, but I think at the fortress level just having local-scale synclines, anticlines and fault discontinuities in the rock layers would be enough to make the structural geologists giddy. Come on, Toady, don't leave all the fun for the mineralogists, petrologists, volcanologists, glaciologists and soil scientists! Geology is way more than just that! 

Why did I get the feeling I would start something like this?
Anyways, @ Andir: Minerals and such are defined as igneus extrusive, igneus intrusive, sedimentary, or metamorphic already.  I don't think he uses a "closeness to air" mechanism 

[Andir]

It's shots like that that remind me just how damned accurate DF's geology is.
Look at those layers!

I know it's pedantic, but I wouldn't say accurate.  I'd give DF an award if it managed to handle plate tectonics properly by lifting and smashing layers together.  Currently it just kind of cheats by determining how close to the air the material is and uses some "cheap" smoothing algorithms if I recall correctly.  If/when I can see vertical/diagonal layers, then we'll talk about accuracy.

Plate tectonics would be cool for world-gen, but I think at the fortress level just having local-scale synclines, anticlines and fault discontinuities in the rock layers would be enough to make the structural geologists giddy. Come on, Toady, don't leave all the fun for the mineralogists, petrologists, volcanologists, glaciologists and soil scientists! Geology is way more than just that! 

Why did I get the feeling I would start something like this?
Anyways, @ Andir: Minerals and such are defined as igneus extrusive, igneus intrusive, sedimentary, or metamorphic already.  I don't think he uses a "closeness to air" mechanism 

Find me a plot of the world where sand exists below stone (without dwarven intervention)... then we'll talk.

[smjjames]

I've had one which had soil as an inclusion (my last fort actually). It was on a sandy slope and only a few tiles from the exposed soil

It can happen with lava vents or pools and the obsidian that surrounds them, but that is completely besides the point that was made.

[alway]

Very cool, alway.  Even without the pointy tops, it looks good.  Are those pyramids solid, hollow, or inhabited?

Response spoilered to avoid thread derailment.

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Built hollow, but I am slowly constructing floors on the interior. For the most part, the living quarters are under the middle pyramid, and inside the middle pyramid I am filling it slowly with coffins. The other 2 I am building floors out of orthoclase and microcline and using the created area as stone stockpiles for orthoclase and microcline. I made both of them magma-safe (to make non-bauxite maps more fun). I have huge quantities of stone, if you notice the big 100 by 100 square channeled out in the middle, I am strip mining that entire section from -15 (the lowest) up, and have currently excavated 4 z levels (over the course of 3 real days). In the north, I am starting a colosseum replica, since I figure it is a good use for the 40k stone I have from my strip mining activities. The strip mining is curently on hold, since I want to use up the stone I mined out in megaprojects. Once the hole is mined out, I will be putting in my grand temple to armok, however I have yet to figure out a worthy design for it.

It's shots like that that remind me just how damned accurate DF's geology is.
Look at those layers!

I know it's pedantic, but I wouldn't say accurate.  I'd give DF an award if it managed to handle plate tectonics properly by lifting and smashing layers together.  Currently it just kind of cheats by determining how close to the air the material is and uses some "cheap" smoothing algorithms if I recall correctly.  If/when I can see vertical/diagonal layers, then we'll talk about accuracy.

Plate tectonics would be cool for world-gen, but I think at the fortress level just having local-scale synclines, anticlines and fault discontinuities in the rock layers would be enough to make the structural geologists giddy. Come on, Toady, don't leave all the fun for the mineralogists, petrologists, volcanologists, glaciologists and soil scientists! Geology is way more than just that! 

Why did I get the feeling I would start something like this?
Anyways, @ Andir: Minerals and such are defined as igneus extrusive, igneus intrusive, sedimentary, or metamorphic already.  I don't think he uses a "closeness to air" mechanism 

Find me a plot of the world where sand exists below stone (without dwarven intervention)... then we'll talk.

*Quickly mods dwarves into humans, plants a tower cap farm underground*
There! sand under rock with no dwarven intervention!