Beer: As I said that is typical behaviour for Toony looking at his past. I didn't think anything of it as opposed to Jim because it came from someone who was posting any random shit, if it came from someone else then i'd be suspicious. You've been on me for a while and I think i've been pretty patient, i'd like to hear your opinion on something else for a change, namely this recent insanity.
[remainder clipped for space]
My opinion on the recent insanity:
Ah, okay. It looked to me like suspicion had turned away from ToonyMan for the moment as votes rotated towards you, but upon more careful consideration I suppose you're right. If you would like to convince everyone else that ToonyMan needs to be lynched today, though, I'll put him back on the list.
I'll ask ToonyMan as well, then, and change the question a little.
To ToonyMan, Org, and eduren:
Out of the three people we seem to have up for serious lynch consideration, which should we pick? Additionally, why do you think the other two (e.g. probably yourself and one other person) should be passed over for today?
I want Vector and Org gone. It's them. They're the mafia.
webadict has been extremely unclear about his intentions. The only thing even close to an explanation that we have received is the above post. Why did he quote
that specific post of Vector's?
If I were going to accuse Vector and Org, I would have used something more, like this:
I'm curious.
Jim Groovester, why are you persisting Org with no evidence that he/she/it is scum?
Lurkers. I'm currently satisfied with dakarian's logic-blocks, as he has (in my mind, at least) undone his lurking. I find it difficult to believe that Org has absolutely zero time to do anything but defend himself, however. At the moment, I'd mark him as the member who has contributed the least to the town's efforts. Eduren seems quite scummy, but at least we know something about him. Even data on his incompetence is better than no data whatsoever.
So, Org for now, with the hope of pressuring him into some analytical contributions.
Ah, okay. It looked to me like suspicion had turned away from ToonyMan for the moment as votes rotated towards you, but upon more careful consideration I suppose you're right. If you would like to convince everyone else that ToonyMan needs to be lynched today, though, I'll put him back on the list.
I'll ask ToonyMan as well, then, and change the question a little.
To ToonyMan, Org, and eduren:
Out of the three people we seem to have up for serious lynch consideration, which should we pick? Additionally, why do you think the other two (e.g. probably yourself and one other person) should be passed over for today?
Using my argument, Vector first defended Org against Jim Groovester (who voted Org due to non-participation), and then voted Org for the same reason as Jim Groovester. Later, Vector had no qualms about including ToonyMan into the list of suspects, even though we have no reason to suspect more than two people at a time.
webadict's previous accusation against Jim Groovester shows that webadict is more than capable of coming up with such an argument. So, why the discrepancy?
His further posts show more of his intent:
I suspect Vector is mafia because he IS mafia. That's pretty obvious. I need him to tell you why he's not mafia. I can't do that, considering I'm not him, nor am I able to defend him.
That is by far the weakest argument for the strongest accusation in this game yet.
Oiu, Monsieur Obvious. But, I'm afraid I'll need to let Vector explain.
I would but then I would be mod-killed.
Really that is the only way I can prove it. I could be lying if I said anything else.
So, you're not even going to try to defend yourself?
No defense is the best defense.
That's a lie. An attempted defense is the best defense.
Did you read what I had first posted in this pyramid.
I did. So, you think that you are not able to be defended against?
I want Vector and Org gone. It's them. They're the mafia.
Proof, for either or both of us?
I want something from you first: Prove to me that you are NOT mafia. Do it. Right now.
The suddenness of this accusation and the suddenly confrontational attitude is alarming. Tell us why you think Vector is mafia.
Why simply Vector? Why not Org as well? Are we leaving him out of this?
Regardless of webadict's alignment, I am thinking webadict tried to make a big splash near the end of the day in order to shift the votes around. The difference would be in motivation. If webadict is town, he is doing it to see who jumps. If webadict is scum, he is doing it because one of the two people in the tie is also scum. Under the scum theory, I am not sure which of the two others would be scum: he could have voted Org in order to make eduren survive, or he could have voted Org in order to bus Org.
I may as well also detail why I suspect you, since you don't seem to like answering my questions:
First, you are the other party in ToonyMan's half-hearted vote right at the beginning. That was the major reason why I went after ToonyMan in the first place. ToonyMan's story checks out, but his excuse is still really lame. If ToonyMan is scum, you would be the most likely other scum. I want to see if you give.
Second, even from the very start you have been attempting to get on webadict's good side. You crossed him off the list when nobody had any information to go on. You suspected Jim for no real reason other than the fact that Jim had accused webadict. You've also been attempting to rationalize his recent actions. Why do you look up to him so much? You have no real reason to do so if you're town (webadict himself said as much), but if you're scum you have the obvious motivation of trying to pass under his radar.
Third, you are one of the three players that went after people due to inactivity. Vector and Jim also did so, but you were the only one who tried to make it seem like you weren't, with your comment "This likely won't be my final lynch..."
You should notice that all of my questions were directly related to the second point, as that is by far your most suspicious trait. If you answered well, I would have gone to suspecting someone else, and basically have publicly confirmed either you or ToonyMan as town. You didn't answer well.
Author
Topic: Beginners Mafia - Game over! (Read 73756 times)