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[Org]

On Power Roles: I agree with Pandar. Doctors and Town-Cops only. No Power Roles for Mafia.

[Alexhans]

I'll co-mod this one if meph doesn't mind... Helping with votecounts and mafia-related info.

[Mephansteras]

Sounds fine to me. Although we need more then 3 players...

[Alexhans]

I suggest randomly choosing between this 4 setups:

    * 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Sane Cop, 1 Doctor, 5 Townies.
    * 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 7 Townies.
    * 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Sane Cop, 6 Townies.
    * 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Doctor, 6 Townies.

[Pandarsenic]

I suggest randomly choosing between this 4 setups:

    * 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Sane Cop, 1 Doctor, 5 Townies.
    * 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 7 Townies.
    * 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Sane Cop, 6 Townies.
    * 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Doctor, 6 Townies.

My assessments, in order:
1) Too many roles for a newblet game
2) Why- what... that doesn't.... that's just Mountainous!
3) Acceptable
4) Perhaps the best - can't have newbies use the Cop as a crutch but they learn to interact with their power roles.

I think it should be 3 or 4 without saying which.

[Org]

I suggest randomly choosing between this 4 setups:

    * 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Sane Cop, 1 Doctor, 5 Townies.
    * 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 7 Townies.
    * 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Sane Cop, 6 Townies.
    * 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Doctor, 6 Townies.

My assessments, in order:
1) Too many roles for a newblet game
2) Why- what... that doesn't.... that's just Mountainous!
3) Acceptable
4) Perhaps the best - can't have newbies use the Cop as a crutch but they learn to interact with their power roles.

I think it should be 3 or 4 without saying which.

2)Why is there a role blocker if there arent any power roles.

[Rysith]

2)Why is there a role blocker if there arent any power roles.

So that the mafia can't deduce the existence of cop + doctor from the existence of a roleblocker. Three is there so that the cop can't deduce the existence of a doctor and a roleblocker from his own existence, and 4 is there so that the doctor can't deduce the existence of a cop and a roleblocker from his existence. Makes sense to me.

I'm not sure if throwing power roles in is a good idea. I think I'd add a 2 goons/7 town possibility to create the possibility that there are no power roles to go to.

[Mr.Person]

How about a chance of a doc, an independent chance of a cop, and chances for a RB on BOTH sides. Those are the only PR.

[Mephansteras]

I'll probably just use my program from Paranormal with a limited role set and let it pick. That gives us a balanced game without any guarantees of what we'll see.

[ToonyMan]

I'll probably just use my program from Paranormal with a limited role set and let it pick. That gives us a balanced game without any guarantees of what we'll see.

Agree.

[Leafsnail]

Are doctors like Guardians from para?

[ToonyMan]

Yep.

[Leafsnail]

Ok, that could work.

[Eduren]

Ok, im in. Ive played this game in RL but not on here before. Id also vote for a few power roles.

[Pandarsenic]

I'll probably just use my program from Paranormal with a limited role set and let it pick. That gives us a balanced game without any guarantees of what we'll see.

Agree.

Or that.