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[Brent Not Broken]

Because I do. Old habits are hard to break, I guess, and I got comfortable with some shapes back in the 2D version that I still use a lot. Even though I could dig out enormous caverns without supporting pillars and (probably) suffer no consequences (most of the time) for it, I still go out of my way to avoid it.

So, how about you? Do you embrace the new capabilities of dwarven mountain-architects and ignore the old 7x7 rule, or do you hold fast to tradition, in memory of all the lives of dwarven ancestors lost to cave-ins in previous versions?

[Granite26]

Personally, I can't wait for the confusion when it gets added back in

[dragon0421]

I'm relatively new to DF (been playing since March) and with the warning of my friends, my first few fortresses took cave-ins into consideration. I guess they didn't realize this version took the feature out. I still build wall supports or don't dig out parts of rock to support a room, but because I like the aesthetic, and I don't restrict myself to 7x7 between supports.

Why was the feature removed anyway?

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[Sensei]

Yeah, that. I think he also wanted to make the cave-ins more realistic, which would mean a more complex system, which will be worked on later. Hence, only a placeholder is present now.

Personally, I'd like to see something where if you were to build a bridge, you would need period supports, etc. maybe add something in for structures that emulate arches- anyway, the possibilities are pretty much endless and on the 'to do' list.

[Hyndis]

Sometimes the rooms may be a little large, but I'm assuming arched ceilings. I still leave pillars in the middle of rooms that are particularly large.

[Rvlion]

I also started to play the game actively just recently, althought I must say that I think 7*7 is quite small. Esspecially when digging through solid rock.

[Wardo]

I started playing in 3d, and though I don't follow the 7x7 rule, I do leave columns for very large rooms, especially if they're stacked over z-levels, as in a building, and more so in soil layers, especially the layer just beneath the surface.

It just looks wrong without any support.

[Shrike]

Well, when I'm doing something dwarfy, namely, mining out entire levels of a mountain to drop it on a siege, I find that large clefts appear that I didn't dig.
(Which reminds me. I need to try this in d13)

I wonder if that's part of 'oversized cave in' code, or just DF trying to simplify the task.

[geoduck]

I'm another relative newbie, and whack out chambers with wild abandon. I actually wouldn't mind seeing the cave-in threat added back, if the danger size was upped a little higher than 7x7.

[Tael]

Eh, if only there were not any 5x5 workshops; I'd be fine with him implementing 4x4 cavein trigger size.
Sure, stockpiles would lose a fraction of their storage size (1 square per ~16?)

[Michaelsoftman]

I use a 7x7 to house my Trade Depot.

And my stockpile floor usually has one massive room taking an entire z level mined out.

[Richard]

heh, I'm a newbie with the 3D version and have still been digging out 6x6 areas.  so no limit now eh?  good to know.

[Shrike]

Well, I'm boned if that's reintroduced, given my propensity to make huge areas for my stockpiles.

[Beanchubbs]

Well, luckily that 7x7 rule isn't implemented for my game, I have a 40x40x2 dug out without any supports. It's my main dining hall that I made.