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Author Topic: Dwarf Therapist (LATEST 0.5.7 7/13/10 see first post)  (Read 620564 times)

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Re: Dwarf Therapist (LATEST 0.5.7 7/13/10 see first post)
« Reply #1650 on: July 27, 2010, 07:36:14 pm »

now would be an excellent time for an overhaul to the built-in system...
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Re: Dwarf Therapist (LATEST 0.5.7 7/13/10 see first post)
« Reply #1651 on: July 27, 2010, 08:18:38 pm »

Best DF tool ever.  Thanks for making it possible!
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Re: Dwarf Therapist (LATEST 0.5.7 7/13/10 see first post)
« Reply #1652 on: July 27, 2010, 09:17:34 pm »

Still, this is irresponsible. First chmod makes us all dependent on him and his DT, and then he flies away on a unicorn and leaves us with our eventually no doubt painful dependency.
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Re: Dwarf Therapist (LATEST 0.5.7 7/13/10 see first post)
« Reply #1653 on: July 27, 2010, 09:55:53 pm »

Well, he's not gone yet. All he's saying is that he needs someone to keep working on this project. And for that, he needs to grant access the probie...
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Re: Dwarf Therapist (LATEST 0.5.7 7/13/10 see first post)
« Reply #1654 on: July 27, 2010, 10:08:03 pm »

Someone will step up... if not now, then when things break so hard that updating a configuration file can't fix them.

It's open source, under MIT license, one of the most permissive licenses.  (And thank you for that, Chmod.)

Improving the tool will require knowledge of the QT window manager API, but fixing it to work with a new DF that breaks it shouldn't be too hard.

And if an author chooses to make their own tool, they don't have to completely reinvent the wheel; they can use any or all of the DT source code.

Sharing or giving control of the repository to a maintainer would be convenient but not necessary.  Anyone can branch without his permission -- he's already given it by using the MIT license.

(And I offer my apologies if it should be "her permission" ... I try to not be sexist but Whorf's Hypothesis and all that.)
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Re: Dwarf Therapist (LATEST 0.5.7 7/13/10 see first post)
« Reply #1655 on: July 27, 2010, 11:39:36 pm »

(And I offer my apologies if it should be "her permission" ... I try to not be sexist but Whorf's Hypothesis and all that.)

If she was smart enough to be a good programmer, she would refer to herself as he online to avoid being harassed by the stupid. You can  call that Devek's hypothesis.
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Re: Dwarf Therapist (LATEST 0.5.7 7/13/10 see first post)
« Reply #1656 on: July 28, 2010, 07:23:26 am »

Still, this is irresponsible. First chmod makes us all dependent on him and his DT, and then he flies away on a unicorn and leaves us with our eventually no doubt painful dependency.
Why do people never blame the dependent for getting hooked (doing something they know might be bad for them)?  I still don't understand that...
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Re: Dwarf Therapist (LATEST 0.5.7 7/13/10 see first post)
« Reply #1657 on: July 28, 2010, 07:57:07 am »

I have knowledge of QT although not much with DF's memory layouts. If it's something get broken by an update in a way I can fix I'd be happy to try but I know I don't have the time to push improvements through like Chmod was doing.
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Re: Dwarf Therapist (LATEST 0.5.7 7/13/10 see first post)
« Reply #1658 on: July 28, 2010, 02:13:36 pm »

I have knowledge of C++ but not of QT framework. But I'm debating about talking to chmod to taking it over.  I'm a college student so i have some free time to work on it.
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Re: Dwarf Therapist (LATEST 0.5.7 7/13/10 see first post)
« Reply #1659 on: July 28, 2010, 02:22:35 pm »

QT is easy to learn.

Download QT creator and you're set. It has everything needed for c++/qt in one package.

I never could get into visual stupio, but QT creator just works.
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« Reply #1660 on: July 28, 2010, 05:16:58 pm »

Visual Studio + QT Designer (which comes in the SDK) and you're set. It's the environment I use for Runesmith anyway
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Re: Dwarf Therapist (LATEST 0.5.7 7/13/10 see first post)
« Reply #1661 on: July 28, 2010, 06:02:48 pm »

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Re: Dwarf Therapist (LATEST 0.5.7 7/13/10 see first post)
« Reply #1662 on: July 28, 2010, 06:18:37 pm »

What are you frigging talking about, of course it supports C/C++
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Re: Dwarf Therapist (LATEST 0.5.7 7/13/10 see first post)
« Reply #1663 on: July 28, 2010, 06:28:54 pm »

According to their own site(that link), it won't compile standard C code.

Variable length arrays are not some esoteric feature, people use them a lot. QT Creator supports C out of the box, just saying :P
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Re: Dwarf Therapist (LATEST 0.5.7 7/13/10 see first post)
« Reply #1664 on: July 28, 2010, 06:37:50 pm »

It doesn't support all of C99, neither does GCC big deal. QT Creator will be using GCC on linux and on Windows either the VS compiler or MinGW. So if it's using the VS compiler, it won't support them either and if it's using GCC then it may, but it still won't support all of C99. So your point is moot, QT Creator can't match VS as an IDE. IF you're on Linux, use KDevelop instead, much better
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